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[ben3486]

I want some thing funky to stock in my fluval edge.... I love the bright yellow cichlids.....could I get away with one or two of these only in the tank? Is there any thing else which looks funky I can stock?

Edited by ben3486, 04 January 2010 - 11:05 PM.

[drobbyb]

What's the volume of the tank?

[Amberleaf]

Aren't Fluval Edge tanks all 6-gallons? Just a thought.

[Assaye]

In a word - NO.

I don't think there is a single cichlid that is suitable for a Fluval Edge. Even the tiny shell dwellers would appreciate a bigger tank. The yellow ones you saw could be a number of different species but they all get far, far too big.

A Fluval Edge is a pretty tank and I can understand wanting something a bit special for it, but it's also a weird tank that has a few problems associated with it which limit the fish you can have.

IMO, you would be best planting it up really nicely, adding a teeny cave (maybe a small terracotta pot or a coconut cave) and then stocking it with about 6 green neon tetra and 6 small shrimp (cherry shrimp are orangey-pink and rather lovely). You could also try 4 guppies and 3 zebra snails. There are small fish out there that are suitable but most shops don't actually sell them. You might have to special order if you want something both tiny and unusual, and please do LOADS of research first.

You don't want anything that is an air breather, tbh, so no frogs and even a betta might struggle as it would need to search around for the air hole.

Anything more than that is pushing it - the tank already have problems with oxygenation of the water and it's hard to clean so you want to keep a limited number of very small fish.

drobbyb - Fluval Edge is 28 litres

Edited by Assaye, 05 January 2010 - 12:58 AM.

[drobbyb]

I'd have to agree. 28 liters is too small for cichlids to be happy.

[Amberleaf]

Bleh.... the smallest cichlid need at least 15 gallons or something to be happy? I'd say neon tetras and cherry shrimp like Assaye said.

[Ryefish]

the smaller Rasbora's are pretty neat as well as tetra's

[Assaye]

Bleh.... the smallest cichlid need at least 15 gallons or something to be happy? I'd say neon tetras and cherry shrimp like Assaye said.

Not neon tetras

Green neon tetras. They are not actually neon tetras at all and they are quite a bit smaller

Neon tetras are 45 litres +, imo.

[kelly528]

I agree. No neons. Here are some potential tenants:

One of these
-5 male Endlers livebearer
-6 Microrasboras*
-6 Emerald eye / green neon tetras
-3-5 Male Guppies
-3 Bumblebee gobies**
-1 Dwarf puffer**
-3 African Dwarf Frogs (possibly?)

And / or one of these (except with ** fish)
-4-6 Dwarf shrimp eg. Cherry Shrimp, CRS, CBS, Pearl Blue Shrimp, Emerald Green Shrimp, Amano Shrimp
-3 Ghost Shrimp
-2 Zebra / Nerite Snails
-1 Ramshorn Snail


* This genera includes a zillion little rasboras that are all under about 1.5". Very cool fish and perfect for small setups. Just a few from this family are: Celestial Pearl Danios / Galaxy Rasboras, Boraras briggitae, B. merah, exclaimation point danios... the list goes on! DOn't forget: keep no less than 6 of the same species.
** For more experienced fish keepers. They are rather messy and will not accept dry food.

Hope that helped! Obviously you will have to fiddle around with the actual numbers if you want to get reasonable bioload but all species should be happy in an Edge.

Edited by kelly528, 05 January 2010 - 07:18 PM.

[Ryefish]

what is an "exclamation point danio"?! Sounds very interesting, does anyone have a pic?

The Bororas Brigittae look very pretty for such a small fish

[kelly528]

what is an "exclamation point danio"?! Sounds very interesting, does anyone have a pic?

The Bororas Brigittae look very pretty for such a small fish

Oh they are... and they make a tank look huge as well. Very high-impact stocking for a fluval edge... heck if I had the dough I'd do a microrasbora edge myself!

[ben3486]

wow....I didnt expect as many replies lol..im on a few VW forums and never get a good respone lol

Thanks for all the feed back...bit bummed about the cichlids ....not even one?!

I like the look of the bumblebee gobies...are they stocked in most fish retailers? Ilive near Swaffham...near kingslynn in norfolk. Any good retailers about?

If I have to special order fish as i cant find them how does this work? do they come through the post? lol and where do you find such special order shops? I've kept tropical fish befor but never got into it properly.... this time im doing it right.... so sorry for the Q's which you prob all roll your eyes at lol.

Any help with set up and what to look out for in the water etc...good or bad...would be amazing. feel free to link me and pm me

Thanks again peeps.

[ben3486]

Jus had a look at the bumblebees in the fish section (cant remeber what its called...the bit with all the info of all the fish lol)

It says they area brackis fish...just wondered how much salt to put in the fluval edge?

Also .... where I work we have a battery charging room and i can get hold of as much de-ionised water as i want for free!!! lol....any good for tanks...surely better than tap water with all its junk in it??!!

Thanks again peps.

[Theplayboy]

Sorry to hi-jack the thread but where could i get some Bororas Brigittae? Just googled them and love them.

[Amberleaf]

Yes, I agree with Theplayboy. They are cool, but my LFS only stocks Harlequin Rasboras.... Most of the time.

[kelly528]

Jus had a look at the bumblebees in the fish section (cant remeber what its called...the bit with all the info of all the fish lol)It says they area brackis fish...just wondered how much salt to put in the fluval edge?Also .... where I work we have a battery charging room and i can get hold of as much de-ionised water as i want for free!!! lol....any good for tanks...surely better than tap water with all its junk in it??!!Thanks again peps.

Not all are brackish, only some species. If you shop around on a few caresheets you should be able to get an idea of which ones are brackish and which ones are freshwater. Their striping is slightly different.

Sorry to hi-jack the thread but where could i get some Bororas Brigittae? Just googled them and love them.

Yes, I agree with Theplayboy. They are cool, but my LFS only stocks Harlequin Rasboras.... Most of the time.

Wellll.... that would depend on where you live! But there are pet stores out there (usually the ones who specialise in aquatics) who will be more than happy to order some in for you. All you have to do is give 'em a call or talk to a manager and ask them to add X number of X fish onto their next fish order. For most pet stores this won't be a stretch at all.

[Theplayboy]

Wellll.... that would depend on where you live! But there are pet stores out there (usually the ones who specialise in aquatics) who will be more than happy to order some in for you. All you have to do is give 'em a call or talk to a manager and ask them to add X number of X fish onto their next fish order. For most pet stores this won't be a stretch at all.

Thanks, i know what ill be ordering next time im in the LFS. Do you know if they have any special needs/requirements?

[Assaye]

No, no cichlids.

Seriously. It'll be miserable as sin and will probably get sick from stress, and that is if you can find one small enough.

[kelly528]

Wellll.... that would depend on where you live! But there are pet stores out there (usually the ones who specialise in aquatics) who will be more than happy to order some in for you. All you have to do is give 'em a call or talk to a manager and ask them to add X number of X fish onto their next fish order. For most pet stores this won't be a stretch at all.

Thanks, i know what ill be ordering next time im in the LFS. Do you know if they have any special needs/requirements?

Honestly I don't know... not much is known about them because they are a fairly recent discovery. A lot of them haven't even gotten common names, just latin names. I would think that it's safe to expect that they have the same environmental and dietary requirements as other rasboras, ie

-Omnivorous diet ie crushed flake, pellets, baby food (for fish lol), BBS and daphnia
-Best kept in groups of 6 or more
-I guess they would prefer soft, acidic water at about 74

Here is a list of all dwarf rasboras from rasbora dot com:
-= Microrasbora species list =-
Microrasbora erythromicron (Danio erythromicron, Emerald dwarf rasbora)
Microrasbora gatesi
Microrasbora kubotai
Microrasbora nana
Microrasbora rubescens

-= Boraras species list =-
Boraras brigittae
Boraras maculatus (Dwarf rasbora, Dwarf-spotted rasbora, Spotted rasbora, Pygmy rasbora)
Boraras merah
Boraras micros
Boraras urophthalmoides (Least rasbora, Exclamation-point rasbora)

-= Other species =-
Sundadanio axelrodi (Rasbora axelrodi, Axelrod's rasbora)
Celestichthys margaritatus (Danio margaritatus, Celestial pearl danio, Microrasbora sp. galaxy, Galaxy rasbora)
Sawbwa resplendens (Asian rummynose, Naked microrasbora)

For anyone looking for a good 'catalogue' of rasboras, or nano fish in general I strongly recommend the book Mini Aquariums by David E. Boruchowitz. It has a bunch of microrasbora species complete with pictures and a little section on their care.


And for everyone's information: If a fish store orders fish for you your fish will arrive with all their fish that they ordered for the store, then they can just put them on hold for you until you pick them up.

[Theplayboy]

Thanks for the info kelly.