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#1 jonnyf84

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 07:44 PM

hi all, does anybody have any info on breeding conditions for the Northern Mountain Swordtail? There seems to be very little info around on these guys. Any help would be fantastic. Many Thanks,

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 08:10 PM

Xiphophorus nezahualcoyotl are stunning fish.

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I've never kept them, but i would want to give the a large tank 3' or so and keep them in a group ideally of 4-6 fish.
Temps of 66-72F but will be ok up to 78, but no higher.
Their from Central America: Rio Tamasi drainage in San Luis Potosi, Mexico.
Only small fish 6cm is getting on the large size.

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Posted 16 September 2008 - 08:27 PM

thanks, i have heard of them breeding in a 40 litre! i plan on doing the same in a heavily planted tank. shame about the small brood size but you can't have everything aye. They are beautiful fish.

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 01:14 AM

thanks, i have heard of them breeding in a 40 litre! i plan on doing the same in a heavily planted tank. shame about the small brood size but you can't have everything aye. They are beautiful fish.



I agree i got regular painted swords (platys x sword is what i am thinking) but wow those N MTN swords are awesome how much do they cost ...i know pricing is different for the area but just getting an idea and how readily avalible are they

#5 helterskelter

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 09:01 AM

Your be best contacting American Livebearer Association http://www.livebearers.org

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 10:49 AM

I paid 60 for 5, 2 males and 3 females. Very hard to find though. Hopefully i will have some fry in a couple of months but i dont think i can post them to minnesota :lol:

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 04:33 PM

I paid 60 for 5, 2 males and 3 females. Very hard to find though. Hopefully i will have some fry in a couple of months but i dont think i can post them to minnesota :lol:


60 for 5 nezahualcoyotl is very high. For that you can join the British Livebearer Association (16), you can buy some Xiphophorus nezahualcoyotl (they are always available somewhere) and you will still have around 30 change.

PFK recently featured this species and said they would cost 35 for a pair, I almost fell off my chair.

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 07:43 PM

mmm i did wonder but i dont mind, they are beautiful fish. How much would you say, on average, a adult fish will go for? same question for a jouvenile - say 2 months old?

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Posted 02 October 2008 - 11:04 PM

It all depends where you are talking and what species.

I am sure some of the others would have an opinion on this, but the prices seem to go in bands; for fish such as Xenotoca eiseni you will be looking at around 1-2 a pair, fish such as Xiphophorus nezahualcoyotl are between 5-10 per pair and other rarer fish would be up to 20 per pair. Very few fish go for much more than that.

Do remember that if you are interested in wild, rarer fish you really should join the BLA; between the membership at the BLA I would guess we have between 60 and 75% of the species and some species which you will not be able to find anywhere else are commonplace in the BLA.

As for juveniles, I work on 6 juveniles is the same price as a pair.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 12:39 AM

60 is a good price for these stunning fish.

Duncan reminds me of the formose selling for 10-15 a pair at corby :)
Their usualy 3-5

But if u rearly want something and willing to pay then go for it, i know i do.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 01:58 PM

60 is a good price for these stunning fish.

Duncan reminds me of the formose selling for 10-15 a pair at corby :)
Their usualy 3-5

But if u rearly want something and willing to pay then go for it, i know i do.


Sorry Alan, are you saying that 60 is a good price as in it is expensive, or it is cheap?

There is always a species which goes for more than usual, 3 years ago it was X. multilineatus, 2 years ago it was X. montezumae and earlier this year it was Heterandria formosa. These amounts were madness, but as you say, if two people are willing to pay then it is surprising what these auction prices can be. That said, a few years earlier you couldn't sell a bag of Hets for 2.

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 02:37 PM

60 is a good price for these stunning fish.

Duncan reminds me of the formose selling for 10-15 a pair at corby :)
Their usualy 3-5

But if u rearly want something and willing to pay then go for it, i know i do.


Sorry Alan, are you saying that 60 is a good price as in it is expensive, or it is cheap?

There is always a species which goes for more than usual, 3 years ago it was X. multilineatus, 2 years ago it was X. montezumae and earlier this year it was Heterandria formosa. These amounts were madness, but as you say, if two people are willing to pay then it is surprising what these auction prices can be. That said, a few years earlier you couldn't sell a bag of Hets for 2.


Sorry duncan, that's a good price for the breeder.

So what will it be this year ;)
guessing guppies again but do u think we'll see 110 again?

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:08 PM

Never can tell. My trip to Buenos Aires has been put off so I will be able to come along.

I reckon there will be a few Xiphs that will be sought after and there will probably be a couple of others which will be surprising but the guppies will no doubt steal the show again.

You still looking for a room mate?

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Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:01 PM

lol hard choice Buenos Aires or Nottingham!!!

Ye I'm going to Nottingham still.




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