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#1 geo7x

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Posted 04 May 2007 - 09:07 PM

the false widow spider, or the steatoda nobilis is spreading across the country thanks to warmer temperatures (particularly the mild winters).
It is the most dangerous spider to be living in the wild and breeding in britain, and its bite can put a fully grown man in hospital.
The species has been in the country for over 100 years after being introduced on a cargo of bananas from the canary islands.
But according to Stuart Hine, an insect expert at the Natural History Museum, it is spreading:


"There is no doubt in my mind that this is due to the milder winters caused by global warming,"

"Every year, the UK is breaking records for warm temperatures and it is these temperatures that are keeping the spiders alive. It used to be only a handful of spiders would be able to survive the cold weather so the numbers were always kept down. But now they are all surviving the winter and are crawling out of hibernation earlier to mate."

"The numbers have just rocketed into the hundreds of thousands. They can hide in gardening gloves and will bite when you put your hand in. We would urge gardeners to be on their guard in the future."

quoted from gmtv:

A bite from the false black widow delivers enough poison to cause severe pain and inflammation.

Last year market trader Jason Fricker, 34, from Dorchester, Dorset, spent three days in hospital after one bit him on the chest. An entry on the Natural History Museum's website said a bite from the spider at first caused a burning sensation. It then 'increased in intensity, like being scalded, stabbing pains spread first to armpit then down right arm'.

The entry concluded: 'Also flu-like symptoms, aches, sweats, fatigue, perspiring, cold and shaky. Face and right arm went purplish and slightly puffy. Felt unwell for three days.' Another victim reported that the bite lasted for a similar time before becoming infected.

One study found that the pain was far more severe than that from a wasp or bee sting. Mr Hine added: 'Normally an antihistamine cream will take the pain away but, depending on the amount of venom injected, a doctor may need to be seen.'

The species - only the female of which bites - had been considered native to Dorset but has spread as far as East Anglia. It usually lives on walls, fences and tree bark.

Spider facts

"Steatoda Nobilis' is the the most venomous of the 12 biting spiders in Britain.
Only the females bite and they live for around four years while males die younger.
Despite their reputation, they eat only woodlice and smaller spiders.
They have very poor eyesight and depend mostly on vibrations to find their way around.
They grow to up to half an inch long and are increasingly found in garden sheds and outbuildings


this is worrying news for me as i am an arachnophobiac as it is, and ive always told myself they cant do me any harm to try and overcome it, but now i cant be so sure!

So gardeners be careful this summer! and anyone else who is out and about in the UK.

P.s. sorry to kind of leave out anyone who isnt in the UK :blush:

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Posted 04 May 2007 - 09:16 PM

Oh no!!!! Geo, I hate spiders, they terrify me and I love gardening! Looks like I'll be dressing in an all-in-one chain mail suit this summer!!! :crazy:

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Posted 04 May 2007 - 09:26 PM

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG i killed 1 of those this morning, I found it in the outdoor sink (dad uses for his photography chemicals) I thought it had interesting markings before killing it with fairy liquid. dear god i am already weak from the illness and meds, if 1 of those things get near me i am gonna scream till mum comes nad kills it now i lnow what they are.

It was small, Gonna have to spray the Greenhouse and outside loo tommorrow.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 11:19 AM

I really did not want to know that. Just when I had decided to start getting used to spiders being around because there's no avoiding them. Like you I had convinced myself that they're harmless animals that are more scared of me than I am of them. Charlottes Web had given me some courage to feel more comfortable around them ... and all that is shot now :P

Quite worrying, want a cold winter now ... or maybe I'll just have to move back to Holland again.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 02:46 PM

I live in the desert of the western US and we have all kinds of spiders in our house that will bite and even possibly kill you! The black widow is one that likes to hide in cool dark places like basements and under gardening eqiupment and it's bite can be fatal. We also have the brown recluse spider that can also inflict a painful bite that can lead to death if not treated by medical professionals. The hobo spider is by far the most common biting spider around my home it's venom is not reported to be fatal, but it causes the bite location to become severely necrotic. First you get a small blister which eventually rots away and spreads till it covers an area about the size of an orange, and people have died from complications and infection as a result of this spiders bite. We have usually got one or two people in the burn ICU of my hospital that I work in who are recieving treatment for hobo spider bites.

The best way to avoid being bitten is to shake out gardenong gloves thoroughly even swinging them against the side of your house. Always do the same with your shoes and any clothing you may try and wear that has been on the floor. The other thing they tell us is to vacuum our houses more frequently, these spiders blend into the carpet very well and by vacuuming you can suck up and kill any that are on the floor. I notice that the last suggestion helps immensely!

Good Luck!

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#6 The-Wolf

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 04:47 PM

there are over 800 spiders for every man woman and child on this planet.
also bear in mind that you are never more than 8 feet rom a spider.

Sleep well geo :P

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 07:19 PM

I found one of these when i was working on my new fish house, it was an interesting looking beasty to say the least so we brought it indoors and released it in the fishroom as a natural method of eating some of the escaped crickets from feeding the mrs reptiles and tarantulas, last time i looked it was happily living under one the racks of tanks looking fat and healthy, i just hope its not a female and lays hundreds of eggs in there :crazy:

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 08:25 PM

mind you i have been to iraq twice now and they are home to the also nasty camel spider which comes looking for trouble

there was one time we had the austrailian army with us and a baby came out and they were like thats nothing that laughing untill mommy came out then it was like where the hell is everyone its the only spider that i know that chases you wanting to bite you :hyper: and remember they come into this country every month when all the kit comes back from iraq in containers


ps the money spider is the worlds most toxic spider but has no threat to humans as there fangs can not penatrate human skin

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 09:16 PM

Camel spiders or sun spiders as they are also known are not actually spiders at all (they are Solifugids) and have no venom delivery in their bite, their bite however is extreemly powerfull and large specimins can tear sizeable chunks of flesh out of whatever they bite as well as being very aggressive animals that will attempt to eat anything that moves.

The money spider being the most venomous spider is a myth along with daddy long legs and house spiders which have also been attributed the same claim, the most venemous spider is infact the Brazilian wandering spider http://en.wikipedia....andering_spider . If anyone is unlucky enough to ever come across one of them i suggest getting as far away as possible as fast as possible.

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 09:19 PM

no please tell me some more dangerous more poisonious spiders, i dont want to sleep anymore. :-(

i think i will stick to fish!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 05:59 PM

imangine keeping one of them brazilian spiders as a pet :hyper:

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 06:57 PM

Yeah last year a guy in Wiltshire apparently got bitten by one of these spiders, scary for me since i was brought up near Salisbury and my mum still lives near there on a farm, i swear i've seen those spiders before over here too;

http://www.nhm.ac.uk...news_10051.html


But i'm glad i know what it looks exactly like now and what its called so i can ID any if i see them- IMHO, spiders aren't that bad though since they can't fly and most are generally not agressive, its hornets and wasps that freak me out a lot more, i had a hornet in my house not long ago and that scared the hell out of me, the evil little jerk.

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 09:15 PM

What about the Funnel-Web spiders from the Sydney Australia area?

Heard those are nasty too!

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 09:51 AM

[quote name='Tokis-Phoenix' date='May 6 2007, 07:57 PM' post='1603636']
Yeah last year a guy in Wiltshire apparently got bitten by one of these spiders, scary for me since i was brought up near Salisbury and my mum still lives near there on a farm, i swear i've seen those spiders before over here too;

sailsbury plain lots of spiders there that have kept me company during the night :rolleyes:

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:10 AM

"sailsbury plain lots of spiders there that have kept me company during the night :rolleyes:"


Great, I live next to salisbury....


On another note, my sister and her bf are currently travelling
around the world. About 2 months ago, Lee (her bf) got bit by
a spider in oz, he was in hospital for 2 days and had to take
anti-biotics!

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:53 AM

This is very nasty. I have spend eight years convincing my husband that the spiders here don't bite and therefore we aren't obliged to kill them all as we did in TX - and not there's one that does bite. Bah!

On a really sick side note, my dad saw a snake eating a frog when he was out walking the dog the other day. Bet that escaped from somewhere. I wonder what it was? Maybe I shouldn't convince Dan that everything is harmless any more.

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 12:12 PM

my dad saw a snake eating a frog when he was out walking the dog the other day. Bet that escaped from somewhere.

proberbly a grass snake, they are often found hunting in and around ponds and will take fish newts and frogs.
on the other hand an adder will also eat a frog, given half a chance.

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 12:33 PM

There really is very little reason to be worrying about these false widow spiders, their bite is usually no more painfull than a wasp or bee sting and not dangerous unless you are allergic to stings in general and in which case you shouldnt really be going anywhere near any creepy crawlies as most have the capacity to bite or sting in one form or another.

The common garden spider can give a pretty hard bite too but they dont have an interesting name like the false widow spider so the media havent jumped on them.

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 01:54 PM

See, this is one reason I prefer winter! No nasty spiders lurking in the shrubbery...

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:16 PM

unless you are allergic to stings in general


...and this right here is the problem :(

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:55 PM

The average human eats eight spiders in their lifetime at night.
:blink: :crazy: :sick:

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 02:24 PM

See, this is one reason I prefer winter! No nasty spiders lurking in the shrubbery...


Ah, but they will come into your nice dry and warm house to spend the winter in instead :fun: :ninja: .

Edited by Tokis-Phoenix, 08 May 2007 - 02:25 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2007 - 02:30 PM

i'm showing this to Ian :hey:

he hates spiders, i have to get rid of them for him :rolleyes:

we've been talking about emigrating, i quite fancy australia, he refuses because of the spiders and creepy crawlies!

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 06:08 PM

The average human eats eight spiders in their lifetime at night.
:blink: :crazy: :sick:


Not true- that was deliberately made up to see what people would believe. And they fell for it.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:03 PM

i'm showing this to Ian :hey:

he hates spiders, i have to get rid of them for him :rolleyes:

we've been talking about emigrating, i quite fancy australia, he refuses because of the spiders and creepy crawlies!


Very true, there are a lot of dangerous creepy crawlies in australia, snakes, scopions, spiders, deadly octopus, huge ants, insects etc...I have to admit, even though in general i'm fine with bugs and spiders and stuff, there were quite a few incidences while i was living in australia which made me jump or shiver.
My main advice if you want to live in australia and want as few encounters as posible with creepy crawlies over there, is keep your house as clean as posible and avoid having a garden (if you have to have a garden, just keep it to a lawn and a few shrubs or whatever). Even in my grandfathers garden, i discovered deadly redback black widow spiders and even a brown snake once (one of australia's most deadly snakes) in some bushland. My aunt janes garden was a lot better, mostly just encountered a large variety of lizards there, but i think thats because it had less tree's and bushes and things than my grandfathers garden. My aunt diana's garden was the worst though, as is was infested with bulldog ants, which are huge and very difficult to get rid of, and have a really nasty bite (nests of them have been known to kill young children/toddlers when disturbed);

http://www.ento.csir...ges/bulldog.htm

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Bulldog_ant

But yeah, i've encountered a lot of nasty or deadly critters while living in australia in the past. Generally speaking, the more developed/populated the area you live in, the less likely you are to encounter any unwanted wildlife, but on the other hand australia has such beautiful countryside and ocean's it would be a shame to avoid and miss out on them just because of a fear of a few creepy crawlies and stuff :thumbs: .
I've never been bitten or attacked by anything really bad out there yet, most critters you encounter in australia are not interested in people and are perfectly fine if you don't make a fuss and just leave them alone :thumbs: .

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 12:07 PM

most critters you encounter in australia are not interested in people and are perfectly fine if you don't make a fuss and just leave them alone :thumbs: .


think that's true of everywhere tbh!

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 03:03 PM

most critters you encounter in australia are not interested in people and are perfectly fine if you don't make a fuss and just leave them alone :thumbs: .


its not really because of this that people get bitten or killed by poisonous animals, aside from toddlers and people wanting to handle the creatures in captivity, im sure most people get bitten because of stepping on a snake, or putting a shoe on that a scorpion has used as a shelter, or the same with spiders.
Of course theyre perfectly fine if you dont make a fuss of them, (generally) animals like snakes and spiders arent going to hunt you down and bite you because they feel like it, its only in the above accidental circumstances that a creature will attack (although technically they are just defending themselves).

Its not a matter, of "leaving them alone", if people dont want to get bitten then they leave them alone, its just instinct, not even commonsense. You just have to be careful and keep your wits about you, checking in shoes, watching where you tread if youre in the undergrowth, but even then you cant keep your eye out all the time, just gotta hope youre not unlucky.

Of course what miss wiggle said is also true :lol:

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 05:43 PM

The average human eats eight spiders in their lifetime at night.
:blink: :crazy: :sick:


Not true- that was deliberately made up to see what people would believe. And they fell for it.


Where'd you here that? I think it's possible.

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 07:34 AM

The average human eats eight spiders in their lifetime at night.
:blink: :crazy: :sick:


Not true- that was deliberately made up to see what people would believe. And they fell for it.


Where'd you here that? I think it's possible.


its more possible that it was made up :rolleyes:

how do you think whoever would have proved that came to that conclusion? Im not sure that scientists watched people every night for years on end, counting how many spiders they ate.

It cant be accurate at the very least, if at all true.

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 10:03 AM

The average human eats eight spiders in their lifetime at night.
:blink: :crazy: :sick:


they were proberbly refering to things like this




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