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Cichlids Ill...., already lost two - help?
Irf
post Jun 30 2008, 07:45 PM
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Hi all,

Here is a pic of one of my sick fish:



It's the golden one at the right of the pic.

The fins and tail are disappearing, and also there is some sort of whitish growth/slime on their body. There are two fish who have this problem, and I have lost two the same way in the last month.

The fish gradually get less active as the illness sets in. I have tried dosing regularly with Melafix -- no change. Normally water changes are weekly, 50%. No recent additions. The tankmates are mostly Malawis, with a couple of plecs and one loach. The tank has been stable otherwise for around 18 months. Filtration: 2 x Eheim 2224, with normal eheim media (no carbon). Decorations: some bogwood and lots of rocks.

Any ideas anyone?

Ammonia: 0
Nitrates: 80 (60 from the tap)
Nitrites: 0
pH: 7.8
Temp: 24C

Thanks for help..... off to do another water change now.

Irf.

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post Jun 30 2008, 10:21 PM
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OK, no responses so far.....

I've just done a massive clean-up (removed most of the rocks), and a 80% water change.

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post Jul 1 2008, 08:55 AM
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The growth are the fluffy looking in appearance.
If the fish is producing for slime and look slimey its a parasite.
Check the gills over to see if they have excess slime on them or red and inflamed.
Any signs of flicking and rubbing.
Any fish laboured breathing.

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post Jul 1 2008, 01:08 PM
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Yes, the growth is a bit fluffy looking - not really slimy I guess. I will check the gills later on when I am home. No flicking and rubbing (but have seen this in other fish that are not currently sick - what does that mean?).

Also the laboured breathing seems to come on later, when the illness is very advanced.

I am inclined to do another large water change this evening unless other ideas are offered.

Thanks,

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post Jul 1 2008, 01:11 PM
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Water change will help dilute the bacteria down in the tank.
Read this article to see what you think.
http://www.flippersandfins.net/flexibacter.htm
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post Jul 1 2008, 01:33 PM
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Wilder - that is a fantastic article...... thank you for the link. Having read it from start to finish I can see that problem is exactly as described here, and it's not slime or fungus but Flexibacter. I will come up with a traetment plan immediately. Unfortunately living in the UK I don't think the various antibiotics described are readily available, especially those incorporated into fish food. I will probably settle for the off-the-shelf remedies available, but now I am far better informed.

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post Jul 1 2008, 01:35 PM
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For columnaris in the uk pimafix and myxazin by waterlife.
You will need to increase aeration in the tank as meds reduce 02 in the water.

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post Jul 1 2008, 01:41 PM
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Great - thanks for the pointers. I will get some. No problem with the aeration....

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post Jul 1 2008, 01:41 PM
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Good luck.
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