i have got a rekord 70. i have a blackmoor and a fantail goldfish. my temp is stuck at 77 fahrenheit and i cant get it down> does anyone have any ideas?

add cold declorinated water. Like make a bucket it with ice in it, check the temp declorinate it and add. If that doesnt work then i would look into a chiller, i have never used one nor know their actual purpose so maybe someone can help and correct me or give you more info on those.

Don’t worry about it, they will be fine. In fact the more unusual goldfish actually do better in slightly warmer water. Most of them are bred in Asia and it gets pretty warm there.
If you were keeping fish that need cold conditions (like trout or salmon) then maybe look into a chiller unit but they are expensive and not necessary for goldfish.

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i would listen to colin he has helped me out a lot since im new and all.

Thank you for youre help. i am new to this as you imagine.
my partner has got a tropical aqaurium and i decided i wanted start up a cold water tank.
The tank has been set up for a week. temp was ok and ph was 7.0 as you expect. i then went to the local store and they told me i should add 2 fish to start of the cycle. So yesterday i bought a blackmoor and a fantail goldie. everything was ok apart from with the warm weather my tanks temp had gone higher.
tested for ammonia last night with the chance that it may start appearing now and there was a slight trace. This morning the goldie has been at the top and every now and again gulping air. i know the tank hasnt cycled yet so could this be stress? or is it just a more stable temp at the top of the tank?
This is how the tropical tank was set up and everything was fine. im just wondering what it is ? and how i can help?

also havent people been known to keep them in fish bowls? surley this enviroment is a bit better for them ?

It has been warm .. I got back after the weekend to discover that my 22-24C tanks were at 30C ... after a quick head count it seems some fish had disappeared. Exactly how the rest will survive a hot summer is anyones guess.

As for your Goldfish, you really should have done a fishless cycle. Goldfish are messy fish and will produce quite a bit of ammonia before the filter matures enough to handle it. So that's a fair bit of time swimming about in their own waste products. Warm water also means less oxygen.

I'm sure people will suggest that you take the fish back and do a fishless cycle ... in the meantime, and if you don't wish to take them back, you will need to do water changes everyday - somewhere between 10-25% dechlorinated tap water.

30C is nothing for tropical fish and even the goldfish are fine at those temperatures as long as it doesn't start to fluctuate rapidly, and there is plenty of oxygen in the water. This is easily achieved by having lots of surface turbulence that allows the water to maximise its oxygen carrying capacity.

Because you have goldfish in the tank while it is cycling you will have to monitor the ammonia & nitrite levels. Also keep the feeding down to once every couple of days. If the ammonia levels get above 1ppm then do a water change to dilute it. I like 40-50% water changes to dilute ammonia because the bigger water change dilutes the chemicals more. Just make sure any new water going into the tank is free of chlorine and has a similar temperature & PH to the tank.
You can do smaller water changes but you just have to do more of them to drop the ammonia levels.

Not many people keep fish in bowls any more. The small water volume just makes it too difficult to keep them any length of time. There are always exceptions but most people have less problems if their fish are kept in bigger volumes of water. Shops are also more willing to part with knowledge and many employees actually care about the fish and as such will try not to encourage the sale or use of fish bowls for general fish keeping.

I have got a air pump in there so will that be enough to keep the oxygen going? I will keep the feeding down and keep testing and doing water changes. That is what we did with the tropical tank. do i just keep doing this till the ammonia breaks down?
thank you very much for your help again.

As long as the air pump is creating lots of bubbles on the surface, that will keep the oxygen levels as high as possible under the circumstances.

Just keep the feeding down and keep doing water changes until there are no longer any ammonia or nitrite readings. This will probably be in a month or so. Then just do weekly or fortnightly water changes to keep the nitrates as low as possible