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JawsA10
post Mar 29 2008, 07:32 PM
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Do snowflake morays live in brackish water if they are young and only 9 inches long? or full blown marine?
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post Mar 29 2008, 11:57 PM
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We had post like this before, and it always come to the conclusion: The do best in marine. They dont live long in Brackish.
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post Mar 30 2008, 12:00 AM
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I agree about frequency of posts on this subject but I was of opinion and as a keeper of two of these (16 inch long) tha stronger brackish was fine or even ideal? mine are in 1.012sg
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post Mar 30 2008, 12:41 AM
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Assuming your talking about Gynothorax Tile "snowflake moray" then yes they need brackish water from young and go to almost marine as adults.

If your talking about the proper marine snowflake eel, I wouldn't risk it. It may seem happy but keeping it in lower SG may cause serious damage.
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post Mar 30 2008, 04:47 AM
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QUOTE (Paul_MTS @ Mar 29 2008, 07:41 PM) *
Assuming your talking about Gynothorax Tile "snowflake moray" then yes they need brackish water from young and go to almost marine as adults.

If your talking about the proper marine snowflake eel, I wouldn't risk it. It may seem happy but keeping it in lower SG may cause serious damage.


Can he stay like that for a week? hes at high brack (bordering low marine)
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post Mar 30 2008, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (JawsA10 @ Mar 30 2008, 05:47 AM) *
QUOTE (Paul_MTS @ Mar 29 2008, 07:41 PM) *
Assuming your talking about Gynothorax Tile "snowflake moray" then yes they need brackish water from young and go to almost marine as adults.

If your talking about the proper marine snowflake eel, I wouldn't risk it. It may seem happy but keeping it in lower SG may cause serious damage.


Can he stay like that for a week? hes at high brack (bordering low marine)

It depends, you haven't stated what fish it is.

Assuming your eel is the one in your sig pic, you have G. tile which is a brackish fish which seems to prefer stronger brackish conditions as it ages.

Below are a couple of pictures of another eel which shares the common name "snowflake eel" (Echidna nebulosa). This eel lives on reefs and should really be kept in marine conditions throughout its life.


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post Mar 30 2008, 11:32 AM
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For Gymnothorax tile you do not need saltwater. Fluctuating between 1.012 and full marine is best. They like seasonal variation, and also watch the temps. If the water gets above 80 degrees things are not pretty.

This post has been edited by Marine/Freshwater?: Mar 30 2008, 11:34 AM
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post Mar 31 2008, 04:21 AM
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I ran out of salt lol but both my eels are in 1.018 and Im going to add more salt in a few days (when i get to petco) Also, I own both of those species lol.
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post Mar 31 2008, 08:10 PM
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What do you mean both species? If your eel is brown with gold spots you do not need to raise the salinity! Raising the salinity to quikly is not good. 1.018 is fine.
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post Apr 5 2008, 10:26 PM
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Both species are best kept in full marine. G. tile can survive in med brackish with ease, but Echidna nebulosa is a reef fish, but there is no reason it couldn't be kept in somewhat lower salinity for a while; people do this as a disease treatment from time to time with many reef fish. In a tank with both species, it is highly advisable to bring the salinity to full marine, but do not simply dump the salt in the tank. Mix it in a bucket of water first, and add the salt water instead of normal top-off until the tank is at marine conditions.

Oh and by the way I still cannot figure out where marine/freshwater gets his "rules" for keeping G. tile, as I apparently have broken most of them and my three G. tile are in perfect health and eating voraciously. For instance, last week my fan for the halide busted while at school and the temperature soared to almost 90 F for an entire day, and the morays didn't show any sort of discomfort.
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post Apr 6 2008, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (Lynden @ Apr 5 2008, 11:26 PM) *
Oh and by the way I still cannot figure out where marine/freshwater gets his "rules" for keeping G. tile, as I apparently have broken most of them and my three G. tile are in perfect health and eating voraciously. For instance, last week my fan for the halide busted while at school and the temperature soared to almost 90 F for an entire day, and the morays didn't show any sort of discomfort.


to be fair to marine/freshwater I've been advised by plenty of users on here about my G Tiles to watch for temperatures in the summer as in there experiences high temps can cause problems so there may be some truth in it just lucky for you your fish were ok last week

great fish though amd so interesting when they swim all round looking for food
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post May 12 2008, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE (simonas @ Apr 6 2008, 09:03 AM) *
QUOTE (Lynden @ Apr 5 2008, 11:26 PM) *
Oh and by the way I still cannot figure out where marine/freshwater gets his "rules" for keeping G. tile, as I apparently have broken most of them and my three G. tile are in perfect health and eating voraciously. For instance, last week my fan for the halide busted while at school and the temperature soared to almost 90 F for an entire day, and the morays didn't show any sort of discomfort.


to be fair to marine/freshwater I've been advised by plenty of users on here about my G Tiles to watch for temperatures in the summer as in there experiences high temps can cause problems so there may be some truth in it just lucky for you your fish were ok last week

great fish though amd so interesting when they swim all round looking for food

is the snow flake eel is the fresh water one or the salt water one
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post May 12 2008, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE (fishtamer @ May 12 2008, 09:28 AM) *
is the snow flake eel is the fresh water one or the salt water one

From above:

Assuming your talking about Gynothorax Tile "snowflake moray" then yes they need brackish water from young and go to almost marine as adults.

Below are a couple of pictures of another eel which shares the common name "snowflake eel" (Echidna nebulosa). This eel lives on reefs and should really be kept in marine conditions throughout its life.

So in short, there really isn't a freshwater snowflake, only brackish or full marine. good.gif Snowflake appears to be used for more than one genus.
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post May 13 2008, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE (kj23502 @ May 12 2008, 10:47 PM) *
QUOTE (fishtamer @ May 12 2008, 09:28 AM) *
is the snow flake eel is the fresh water one or the salt water one

From above:

Assuming your talking about Gynothorax Tile "snowflake moray" then yes they need brackish water from young and go to almost marine as adults.

Below are a couple of pictures of another eel which shares the common name "snowflake eel" (Echidna nebulosa). This eel lives on reefs and should really be kept in marine conditions throughout its life.

So in short, there really isn't a freshwater snowflake, only brackish or full marine. good.gif Snowflake appears to be used for more than one genus.


I think Jaws has both eels known as snowflake and hopefully they are still both doing well

I'm hoping my G Tiles are going to bo ok in this hot weather as I heard they can suffer if temp goes up
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post May 14 2008, 11:21 PM
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If you want a salt water fish set the tank up for SW. Why guess and argue over the conditions the fish can tolerate? Youll save money and the life of a fish at the same time.
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post May 14 2008, 11:40 PM
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That makes too much sense though....So obviously they can't do that wink.gif
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