Ricordea Florida, is this sufficient lighting? |
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Ricordea Florida, is this sufficient lighting? |
Nov 12 2007, 02:11 AM
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![]() Boss Major Group: Members Posts: 2744 Joined: 2-December 03 From: San Francisco/San Jose, CA Member No.: 3073 |
I am thinking about adding a more expensive coral to my pico, something i can point out and say, "that thing right there is ballin". I was wondering if a ricordea would be okay in a 10w 50/50 coralife screw in bulb. My zoas are doing fine in there, i wasnt sure if the ricordea would be happy with that though. I know they have similar requirements as shrooms, but im not going to drop 20 bucks for a couple of polyps if i know they arent going to be happy in there.
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Nov 12 2007, 03:13 PM
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Just another Fish Group: Members Posts: 1972 Joined: 26-December 03 From: MN, USA Member No.: 3300 |
I am thinking about adding a more expensive coral to my pico, something i can point out and say, "that thing right there is ballin". I was wondering if a ricordea would be okay in a 10w 50/50 coralife screw in bulb. My zoas are doing fine in there, i wasnt sure if the ricordea would be happy with that though. I know they have similar requirements as shrooms, but im not going to drop 20 bucks for a couple of polyps if i know they arent going to be happy in there. pushing it. But you can feed them directly for their energy needs. |
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Nov 13 2007, 02:51 AM
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![]() Boss Major Group: Members Posts: 2744 Joined: 2-December 03 From: San Francisco/San Jose, CA Member No.: 3073 |
so i can just spot feed it like once every other day with mysis?
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Nov 13 2007, 04:38 PM
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Just another Fish Group: Members Posts: 1972 Joined: 26-December 03 From: MN, USA Member No.: 3300 |
Twice a week once shrimp each polyp should be good. You can increase but watch for what they spit out after a few hours. Corals are efficiant eaters, if they are spitting out chunks you are making them expend energy to expell the excess.
I do suggest keeping them as close to the surface as possible with that light. They are from realitivly shallow water. Same with zoa. Fortunatly they dont take all their energy from light |
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Nov 13 2007, 11:08 PM
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![]() Boss Major Group: Members Posts: 2744 Joined: 2-December 03 From: San Francisco/San Jose, CA Member No.: 3073 |
Cool, it is about 10 inches from the light. It opened up a few hours i put it in last night and it seems to be doing fine. It just doesnt look as nice as it did in the store because they were using HQI but its still pretty dang nice
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Nov 14 2007, 04:53 AM
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Just another Fish Group: Members Posts: 1972 Joined: 26-December 03 From: MN, USA Member No.: 3300 |
FYI lighting upgrade should be high on your list.
Survive doesn't mean thrive sunlight???? heck ya Sunlight pwns them all. The critters may not look as psycodelic to our eyes, but they will still love u for it. |
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Nov 14 2007, 08:13 AM
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![]() Boss Major Group: Members Posts: 2744 Joined: 2-December 03 From: San Francisco/San Jose, CA Member No.: 3073 |
ill try to get the into the sun as soon as i get a heater. My roommate opens the window once in a while, so im worried about temperature drops.
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Nov 15 2007, 02:28 AM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 3267 Joined: 29-March 07 Member No.: 30673 |
plenty of light. Heck ive seen people keep sps in lower light, dunno how successful it was but i do know that people have successfully kept lps in 9wt PC light.
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Nov 15 2007, 03:23 AM
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![]() Boss Major Group: Members Posts: 2744 Joined: 2-December 03 From: San Francisco/San Jose, CA Member No.: 3073 |
Ive always thought that it wasnt really about the wattage and color was more important
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Nov 15 2007, 10:27 PM
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![]() a "fish hater" Group: Members Posts: 3474 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Northern BC, Canada Member No.: 15962 |
Unless it's extremely yellow (<5500K) or extremely blue (>20000K) intensity is the most important thing.
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Nov 16 2007, 03:29 PM
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Just another Fish Group: Members Posts: 1972 Joined: 26-December 03 From: MN, USA Member No.: 3300 |
Ive always thought that it wasnt really about the wattage and color was more important color may be importiant to the type of symbyotic hosts. Its also importiant to how their color protiens reacto to the light... because you care what it looks like. But they symbiotic hosts can acclimate or change or the coral can get other ones to adust to the different spectrums we are putting them under. Watts means nothing without the full information, ballast, REFLECTOR, exact bulb, volts, Distance from top of the water, distance coral is under the surface, HOW CLEAN THE WATER IS. You seriously need all these to get an idea what the PAR (PHOTOSYNTETIC AVAILAVLE RAIDIENCE)is lilkey to be. PAR is the effectivly the only measurment you need for the HEALTH of the coral as it relates to light... though most reefers dont choose to get a PAR meeter. ................. success is 2 years in my book. many of the animals in our tanks slowly die, over time the symbotic algae reduces in numbers, the flesh eats at it self. If some one tells you, "I had this mandarine for 6 months." or I had this X coral for 4 months"..."but then it suddenly just died." That means that the animal was slowly dying in their tank for the whole 6 months. Starvation of food and light may not be apparent untill its too late. JIMO This post has been edited by Adrinal: Nov 16 2007, 03:30 PM |
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Nov 16 2007, 07:00 PM
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![]() a "fish hater" Group: Members Posts: 3474 Joined: 20-September 05 From: Northern BC, Canada Member No.: 15962 |
QUOTE If some one tells you, "I had this mandarine for 6 months." or I had this X coral for 4 months"..."but then it suddenly just died." That means that the animal was slowly dying in their tank for the whole 6 months. Starvation of food and light may not be apparent untill its too late. Sad, but true... |
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Nov 17 2007, 03:42 AM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 3267 Joined: 29-March 07 Member No.: 30673 |
yes the lps have been living and growing and has been fragged, that is why i would call it sucessfull, i had no comment on the success of the sps because i do not know of how long it had been in there.
Remember, watts = input electricity, not output light. Take this for example, a 60 watt incandescent has roughly the same amount of light as a 11-14 watt compact fluorescent light. So, lets say its a 10 gallon tank, 60 watt incandescent = 6 wpg, 11-14 watt PC = 1.1-1.4 wpg, yet its the same amount of light. But there are even more variables that Adrinal mentioned, so those need to be taken into consideration as well. Fish mythbusters, WPG is bunk. |
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Nov 17 2007, 03:47 PM
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Just another Fish Group: Members Posts: 1972 Joined: 26-December 03 From: MN, USA Member No.: 3300 |
We are such geeks up here in the tundra we ... not joking now... purchace new t-5 bulbs and equipment and test them for fun... hahah
couple years ago we tested the difference between an icecap parabolic reflector and the sunlight supplies old parabolic reflector(discontinued... and haven't tested the new one yet...but I have some). the ice cap reflector is slightly larger and its nicer because they bend the metal on the edges so you dont cut your self... unlike the other. There might have been some other slight differences... but I'm not a detail guy, i just care about the PAR. Both reflectors were bent in a similar fation. The ice cap consistantly tested 30% more PAR (the test was done with scientific standards in mind). if I recall it was something like shy of 300% more light than a naked bulb! I never would have guessed I would play with my PAR meter more than my refractometer. hahaha |
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Nov 18 2007, 05:56 PM
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Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 304 Joined: 1-April 06 From: Hampshire. UK Member No.: 20297 |
[quote name='Adrinal' date='Nov 17 2007, 03:47 PM' post='1824078']
We are such geeks up here in the tundra we ... not joking now... purchace new t-5 bulbs and equipment and test them for fun... hahah couple years ago we tested the difference between an icecap parabolic reflector and the sunlight supplies old parabolic reflector(discontinued... and haven't tested the new one yet...but I have some). the ice cap reflector is slightly larger and its nicer because they bend the metal on the edges so you dont cut your self... unlike the other. There might have been some other slight differences... but I'm not a detail guy, i just care about the PAR. Both reflectors were bent in a similar fation. The ice cap consistantly tested 30% more PAR (the test was done with scientific standards in mind). if I recall it was something like shy of 300% more light than a naked bulb! I never would have guessed I would play with my PAR meter more than my refractometer. hahaha [/quote Can you buy PAR meters? |
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Nov 18 2007, 07:26 PM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 3267 Joined: 29-March 07 Member No.: 30673 |
yeah, but affording it means selling your tank.....
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Nov 19 2007, 04:10 AM
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Professor Beaker Group: Moderators Posts: 11479 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Buffalo, NY Member No.: 16025 |
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