How Many Clown Loaches Can I Fit In A 300l Tank? |
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How Many Clown Loaches Can I Fit In A 300l Tank? |
May 5 2006, 03:45 AM
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Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 28-February 06 Member No.: 19464 |
I recently got 3 clown loaches which are about 2" each for my tank. I wanted to add a few more, but wasnt sure if there is enough space for more.
My stocking is: - 8 Rummynoses - 8 White Clouds - 6 Corys - 5 Yoyos Most of the fish I have are small fish (apart from the yoyos) so could I potentially add a few more clown loaches? I do understand that the clowns can grow to 12", but that would take a few years wouldnt it? If that is the case, I do have plans to rehouse them to a bigger 650L tank later on. Thanks. |
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May 5 2006, 04:07 AM
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Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 293 Joined: 12-February 06 Member No.: 19047 |
i really wouldent add anymore.
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May 5 2006, 07:17 AM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 3126 Joined: 27-November 05 From: Addingham, West Yorks (Near Leeds/Bradford) Member No.: 17242 |
QUOTE(Alex_ @ May 5 2006, 05:07 AM) [snapback]1174313[/snapback] i really wouldent add anymore. am i missing something? he has a 300 litre tank with 16 little tetras in and then some loaches and corys. hes way understocked and could easily add more loaches. |
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May 5 2006, 07:35 AM
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Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 28-February 06 Member No.: 19464 |
Thanks for the replies.
Sam, I thought the same, that I might be able to add one or two more clown loaches. Perhaps its because the yoyos and clowns do grow very big, but as mentioned in my initial post, I do intend to rehouse them when they grow bigger. |
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May 5 2006, 08:47 AM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Newsletter Team Posts: 738 Joined: 3-June 05 From: UK Member No.: 13813 |
I'd happily add another 2
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May 5 2006, 10:35 AM
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Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 5017 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Southampton, uk Member No.: 12916 |
300 ltrs is nearly 80 gallons; that's a nice good size. Don't see that an extra couple of clown loaches would come to any harm in there. And clowns are quite slow growers, aren't they?
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May 5 2006, 10:40 AM
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![]() it's a shame stupidity isn't painfull Group: Newsletter Team Posts: 1268 Joined: 9-January 06 From: south shields Member No.: 18103 |
yeah they grow slow and i would add anouther 2 if i were you because they like to live in bigger groups as they are very social fish
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May 5 2006, 11:02 AM
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![]() Fish Crazy Group: Members Posts: 185 Joined: 24-February 06 Member No.: 19392 |
To be honest. I would probably add another 6 or so.
Steve |
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May 6 2006, 11:25 AM
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Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 28-February 06 Member No.: 19464 |
Thanks for the replies, I added another 2 clown loaches in today and it somehow triggered a total behavioural change in the clown loaches! They all seem to be a lot more active now and are schooling. The 2 new ones are still settling in, but on the whole, the group seems to be better off with the addition of 2 more clowns!
I also noticed one of the bigger clowns fighting another clown - is this normal? Are they merely establishing a pecking order? |
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May 6 2006, 12:23 PM
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Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 822 Joined: 13-August 05 From: NY NY Member No.: 15216 |
QUOTE(ey2006 @ May 6 2006, 07:25 AM) [snapback]1175552[/snapback] I also noticed one of the bigger clowns fighting another clown - is this normal? Are they merely establishing a pecking order? Perfactly normal, they are resetting the hierarchy, and the things will settle down within at most two weeks. As for the growth: figure out about 1"/year. Your tank should be good enough for them for a couple of years. |
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May 6 2006, 01:19 PM
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Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 28-February 06 Member No.: 19464 |
QUOTE(mikev @ May 6 2006, 10:23 PM) [snapback]1175579[/snapback] QUOTE(ey2006 @ May 6 2006, 07:25 AM) [snapback]1175552[/snapback] I also noticed one of the bigger clowns fighting another clown - is this normal? Are they merely establishing a pecking order? Perfactly normal, they are resetting the hierarchy, and the things will settle down within at most two weeks. As for the growth: figure out about 1"/year. Your tank should be good enough for them for a couple of years. Thanks for the reply mikev. Glad the tank will be enough for them for a few years, there is a good chance I may get a bigger tank before then, but I'm content with 2 tanks at the moment. With 5 clown loaches now, do you think there is any need to add any more? I wanted to see how they go and if the clowns are healthy and no noticeable problems such as ich, then I might add 2 more and leave it at that. Is that okay or too much? |
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May 6 2006, 03:05 PM
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Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 822 Joined: 13-August 05 From: NY NY Member No.: 15216 |
You can add two more (if you are planning on a bigger tank later), but you don't have to rush into this.
Five is a reasonable shoal, and you can wait until you see a clown you cannot resist, this will happen sooner or later. (this is what I did, I have six right now) |
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May 6 2006, 03:48 PM
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![]() it's a shame stupidity isn't painfull Group: Newsletter Team Posts: 1268 Joined: 9-January 06 From: south shields Member No.: 18103 |
if i had a big enough tank i would fill it with just clown loaches im getting a bigger tank in december we'll see what happen then
This post has been edited by smurfy: May 6 2006, 03:48 PM |
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May 7 2006, 04:24 AM
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Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 28-February 06 Member No.: 19464 |
QUOTE(mikev @ May 7 2006, 01:05 AM) [snapback]1175691[/snapback] You can add two more (if you are planning on a bigger tank later), but you don't have to rush into this. Five is a reasonable shoal, and you can wait until you see a clown you cannot resist, this will happen sooner or later. (this is what I did, I have six right now) Is it okay to get clown loaches in even numbers (say 6)? I read that its better to get odd numbers like 5 or 7, but not sure if this is true - do your 6 clowns school together all the time? Are they shy during the day? |
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May 7 2006, 01:34 PM
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![]() it's a shame stupidity isn't painfull Group: Newsletter Team Posts: 1268 Joined: 9-January 06 From: south shields Member No.: 18103 |
i dont think keeping them in odd numbers is really bennificial and they may be shay for a little bit but not long it shouldnt stress out the ones you have at the moment either
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May 7 2006, 11:06 PM
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Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 822 Joined: 13-August 05 From: NY NY Member No.: 15216 |
QUOTE(ey2006 @ May 7 2006, 12:24 AM) [snapback]1176427[/snapback] QUOTE(mikev @ May 7 2006, 01:05 AM) [snapback]1175691[/snapback] You can add two more (if you are planning on a bigger tank later), but you don't have to rush into this. Five is a reasonable shoal, and you can wait until you see a clown you cannot resist, this will happen sooner or later. (this is what I did, I have six right now) Is it okay to get clown loaches in even numbers (say 6)? I read that its better to get odd numbers like 5 or 7, but not sure if this is true - do your 6 clowns school together all the time? Are they shy during the day? I personally do not believe in odd numbers. My pattern is that I see all six as a single group in the mornings (until about noon). Evenings I mostly see a gang of three (the same ones), the others do come out for food and occassional walk. By about 10pm they all retire. Adding more later is not a problem, as long as they are smaller than your largest one. |
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May 8 2006, 12:11 AM
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My names Russell.... ....and I'm a Plecoholic Group: Members Posts: 5947 Joined: 14-April 04 From: Milton Keynes - UK Member No.: 5413 |
stocked?? you what?
are you sitting comportably? then I'll begin... In our 350l (3x filtered) we have.... 6x Congo tetras 10x Buenos Aires Tetras 7x Phantom Tetras 2x Cherry barbs 5 Cory Juli 5x Cory panda 4x Cory Adolfi 8x Khuli Loaches 1x Common Plec 1x L141 plec 1x L014 plec 1x LDA33 plec and then there are the 7x Clown loaches 2" -5" we had 3 in our 50gal to start with - then got 3 more (bigger ones) when we got the 350l... since then they have come out of their selves... the cheaky buggers have even learnt to beg for food |
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May 17 2006, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(mikev @ May 8 2006, 12:06 AM) [snapback]1177459[/snapback] My pattern is that I see all six as a single group in the mornings (until about noon). Evenings I mostly see a gang of three (the same ones), the others do come out for food and occassional walk. By about 10pm they all retire. lol so its not jus my clowns who seem to have a schedule? mine are up first thing, then they all (i have 5) gather round for a chat and a sun bathe around 11am on a rock outside there cave. cruise around the rest of the afternoon before another meeting on the rock before bed around 8.30. |
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May 24 2006, 03:49 PM
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Fish Crazy Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 17-February 06 From: havant uk Member No.: 19174 |
QUOTE(SamUK @ May 17 2006, 09:23 AM) [snapback]1187874[/snapback] QUOTE(mikev @ May 8 2006, 12:06 AM) [snapback]1177459[/snapback] My pattern is that I see all six as a single group in the mornings (until about noon). Evenings I mostly see a gang of three (the same ones), the others do come out for food and occassional walk. By about 10pm they all retire. lol so its not jus my clowns who seem to have a schedule? mine are up first thing, then they all (i have 5) gather round for a chat and a sun bathe around 11am on a rock outside there cave. cruise around the rest of the afternoon before another meeting on the rock before bed around 8.30. Are clown loaches community fish? They look great , I am tempted but not sure if they will be ok with the others in my sig |
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May 24 2006, 04:01 PM
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