What Is The Most Humane Way To Euthanize? |
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 Mar 6 2006, 06:36 AM
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 Fish Addict  Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 26-October 04 Member No.: 10015  |
My poor little Sakana's tumor has gotten HUGE. It's so big that the his scales just couldn't stretch anymore. I moved him to his hospital bowl, because I thought it was getting infected with fungus. However, when I transferred him, the "fungus" flaked off, and when I looked closer, I realized it was some of his scales. He's SO pale... only some of his fins and that tumor have any color in them. He's not eating... just swimming around the bottom and coming up occasionally for a breath. If he makes it through the night, I think I will have to euthanize him tomorrow, because I know he's suffering. I would do it tonight, but I don't think I could handle it.
 So, what the least painful way for him to go? 
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Mar 6 2006, 07:05 AM
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 Fishaholic  Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 31-January 06 From: Redding CA Member No.: 18697 |
This is a hot topic.
I use clove oil. It just puts them into a vary deep sleep. So deep they stop breathing. 6 drops in a cup of water , mix. Then add to a bowl of tank water withfish in it. (Not much water, just to cover fish.) If you do not want to do this or do not have the clove oil. Put a bowl of chushed ice/or ice cubes with some tank water. Make sure it is vary cold first. Add fish quickly. Fish my splash of a sec. but they go under vary fast. Once fish has stoped moving it is gone. At this point some put bowl in the freezer so they only need to get rid of the icecube in morning others put the fish to rest in flower pot/other right away. The other calls for you to cut his head off and then poke his brain with a pin. This one is the hardest but painless. I am so sorry you have to do this. Its never easy.
This post has been edited by Shelly_Otterkin: Mar 6 2006, 07:07 AM |
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Mar 6 2006, 07:07 AM
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 Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 3162 Joined: 1-January 06 From: northampton Member No.: 17910 |
cant help you there...I always just leave mine in clean water..usually turn the heater off if it is a tropical...someone I knows puts them in a container and in the freezer but I am a coward. Best Wishes anyway perhaps he is gone by now....fingers crossed...that sounds awful but you know what I mean....xx |
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Mar 6 2006, 08:49 AM
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 Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 600 Joined: 2-January 06 From: Israel baby Member No.: 17941 |
DO NOT FREEZ them!!!!!!!
many people thing that the cold puts them to sleep but the cold is just hurting them more !!!! there are only a few good ways (this has been discussed too many times ) i recommend slamming them into a wall really hard it knocks them unconsence and they die quick and easy or you cut his head off (this one i couldnt do...) but do not!! not freeze them they go though pain when they are exposed to cold water....
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Mar 6 2006, 03:12 PM
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 Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 839 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Salt Lake City, Utah Member No.: 16093 |
Clove oil (same as Shelly recommended).
And if you don't have clove oil (should find it at herb stores) then you should just knock him out - quick & painless. It's always hard to put a fish down. . . . I hate it.
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Mar 6 2006, 03:15 PM
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Fish Crazy  Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 26-September 05 From: Dublin Member No.: 16099 |
"Flush".....!!!!!!!
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Mar 6 2006, 03:28 PM
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 Everything Went Black... Group: Members Posts: 2764 Joined: 28-May 05 From: St. Paul, Minnesota Member No.: 13702 |
QUOTE(Barry P @ Mar 6 2006, 09:15 AM) [snapback]1102370[/snapback] "Flush".....!!!!!!! Worst way ever. Even if you flush them, they can still survive. I'd use the clove oil method. Sorry you have to do this.
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Mar 6 2006, 03:35 PM
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 Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 307 Joined: 8-February 06 From: Warrington UK Member No.: 18931 |
check this link out
how to euthanize Steelhealr makes a good point. Its a very heated topic!!! this was discussed not long ago on 'tropical fish emergencies'. Danny |
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Mar 6 2006, 04:23 PM
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Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 486 Joined: 26-February 06 From: Canada Member No.: 19427 |
QUOTE(Barry P @ Mar 6 2006, 10:15 AM) [snapback]1102370[/snapback] "Flush".....!!!!!!! Troll. |
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Mar 6 2006, 05:00 PM
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Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 500 Joined: 26-October 04 Member No.: 10015 |
I think I will use the clove oil method... it sounds the least painless. I did a little reasearch, and found some things that say they use clove oil to put fish to sleep for surgical procedures, and they can wake up once you remove them, so to make sure that doesn't happen, I'll put him to sleep with the clove oil to make sure he won't be in any pain and then I'll freeze him.
No offense, but I don't understand how people here, activists who say bettas are pets and should be treated as such just like dogs and cats, could advocate slamming their heads against a wall or decapitating them! That's cruelty to animals when done to any other animal, so why is okay for our beloved bettas? |
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Mar 6 2006, 05:32 PM
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Everything Went Black... Group: Members Posts: 2764 Joined: 28-May 05 From: St. Paul, Minnesota Member No.: 13702 |
Fish have really don't have a nervous system, there for, when you do the decapitatin method, they don't feel it.
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Mar 6 2006, 05:38 PM
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 ~ I learn something new ~ ~~~~ every day ~~~~ Group: Newsletter Team Posts: 9044 Joined: 31-March 05 From: London, UK Member No.: 12822 |
QUOTE(Dude @ Mar 6 2006, 08:49 AM) [snapback]1102026[/snapback] DO NOT FREEZ them!!!!!!! You might find it interesting to read what steelhealr has to say about this in this recent topic on "How to Euthanize" QUOTE(steelhealr @ Mar 3 2006, 08:15 PM) [snapback]1098858[/snapback] This is what I choose to do with my fish and my comments are only placed here as opinion. This is a heated topic. I choose based on my knowledge from my training: Oil of cloves is a topical anethestic and was used in the past to treat toothaches. Lidocaine (like at the dentist's office is a topical anesthetic as well). When we operate on people we really want to achieve 2 things, analgesia and anesthesia, that is, relief of pain and unconsciousness. IMO, when a fish is immersed in oil of cloves, it is essentially 'topically anesthetized', paralyzed, but, I am NOT convinced that the fish is unconscious.....none of us will really know for sure. We don't know if the oil of cloves causes stinging to the mucus membranes, eyes, etc on initial contact nor if the fish is motionless, painless but aware. Extreme cold is an anesthetic. When applied to skin, you can actually cut the skin and feel no pain. Cold also can cause rapid unconsciousness. In fact, hypothermia is reported to cause a state of euphoria and clouding of consciousness. Fish, at least most of the types that we keep (tropical), are extremely small and rapid immersion in extreme cold water, in my opinion, causes rapid pain relief and rapid unconsciousness. I have never seen any of my fish shows signs of what I consider suffering. They stop moving immediately and appear lifeless. Some have stated that since fish are ectothermic, this doesn't apply....perhaps in cold water fish I would agree. I choose to euthanize my fish this way, rather than oil of cloves. One must either make an educated decision for themselves, or, choose what is currently accepted by the masses as what is humane. Added: although I would never use blunt force to euthanize my fish, nor advocate it, one fact is for sure: death is instantaneous SH This post has been edited by bloozoo2: Mar 6 2006, 08:08 PM |
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Mar 6 2006, 07:35 PM
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 Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 727 Joined: 27-December 05 From: We're all Coneheads here. Member No.: 17798 |
I wonder if a vet can supply you with some anesthetic too. This would work. Think I might get some to have on hand along with the Oil of Clove. I think that's the best method. Once they're asleep they can't come up for air. The freezing thing....of course our nervous system is different but I knew a lady who was rescued from freezing to death and she said it was quite peaceful. She just finally sucumbed to the feeling of wanting to go peacefully to sleep, and luckily someone found her before her heart stopped. I'm sure it's going to be hard no matter how it's done but we all owe our friends to do right by them. The sadder parts of life cannot be escaped--they can be run from---but who are we if we do this? I'm real sorry things progressed so quickly for you with him and that you're having to do this now. I've had to do this with a few cats but not my fish yet. Tough one...
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Mar 6 2006, 08:10 PM
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Everything Went Black... Group: Members Posts: 2764 Joined: 28-May 05 From: St. Paul, Minnesota Member No.: 13702 |
If you can't do it yourself, have someone euthanize it or have a vet euthanize it.
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