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Green Water, In my cichlid tank???
FiSh123FiSh
post May 17 2008, 04:50 PM
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Hi all, I have a cichlid tank which has got very cloudy greenish water and it is very boring trying to get rid of it. The filter has got filter wool in there and its been like it for a month.

Please can anyone help?

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post May 17 2008, 05:28 PM
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Doing regular water changes?
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post May 18 2008, 08:29 AM
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Yes. Yesturday I got bored and just cleaned it out only leaving about 6" of water in the tank and now it is much clearer.
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post May 18 2008, 08:41 AM
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to stop the water going like that you have to do regular water changes, to keep the water clean.
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post May 18 2008, 10:54 AM
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is the tank located in front of the window?
it should ideally be housed away from direct sunlight
waterchanges should help emensly with this problem
its probally an algae bloom filter wool should help this probally better to change the wool regually!!!!
there is a chemical you can by from lfs called green away<ive used once when i had my tank next to a window and had an algae bloom it collects the particles togther where they either sink or sucked up by filter, it worked well but wouldnt reccomend using it always
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post May 18 2008, 08:21 PM
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Thanks all,
The tank is not in direct sunlight. It is on a wall on the right hand side of a bay window (big wide stretched window ) I do water changes about once a month, is that not enough?

Thanks Tom.
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post May 18 2008, 08:27 PM
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Really you should be doing a 10% water change about once a week.
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post May 18 2008, 08:53 PM
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Ok I will try to do 10% water changes thanks for that tip.
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post May 18 2008, 08:56 PM
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i have the same problem in my oscar tank, i do water changes everyday ( some bigger than others,) but given where it stands, its a bit immpossible not to have it happen( right next to the window)
you cant see it from the front but if you are on the sofa looking at the tank from the window end then its looks green sad.gif

shelagh xx you def need to do more water changes tho,



ps this is when it was little fish, all pretty much the same tho + more lighting and plants etc

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post May 18 2008, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE (FiSh123FiSh @ May 18 2008, 03:21 PM) *
Thanks all,
The tank is not in direct sunlight. It is on a wall on the right hand side of a bay window (big wide stretched window ) I do water changes about once a month, is that not enough?

Thanks Tom.



QUOTE (nath1 @ May 18 2008, 03:27 PM) *
Really you should be doing a 10% water change about once a week.
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QUOTE (FiSh123FiSh @ May 18 2008, 03:53 PM) *
Ok I will try to do 10% water changes thanks for that tip.


Actually you are overstocked for a 40gal (which is normal for mbuna), I'd do minimum 40% weekly water changes. African cichlids do just fine with large changes, and usually need it due to being overstocked for aggression. How much filtration do you have? It's usually recommend with mbuna for your filter(s) to turn the tank over 10 times per hour. Your algae problems are probably due to not enough water changes and/or not enough filtration. good.gif
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post May 19 2008, 06:00 PM
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Ok Thankyou I will do one now.

Apparently I read that it is good to overstock a mbuna tank by 3x so I could get about 120" of fish in there. This is so that the cichlids can have more than one intruder to scare away.

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post May 19 2008, 06:21 PM
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Yes overstocking Mbuna tanks is a very good idea. Mass murder often occurs by the dominant fish if you don't, but overstocking needs additional work. High nitrates will contribute to this green water, and nitrates will always run high in overstocked tanks. The only way to reduce nitrate is with waterchanges. I'd actualy consider two 30% weekly changes minimum for your tank, but two 50% changes a week would be better. Also, get lots of filtration on there, to ensure ammonia and nitrite is not the caurse of the green water, as algea is almost always encuraged to bloom due to one of these yes.gif

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post May 19 2008, 08:16 PM
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Thanks for all the infomation it has made the whole thing alot clearer.

In my tank i have a fluval 4+, is this enough?

Tom
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post May 19 2008, 09:22 PM
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You may also wish to concider a UV sterilizer smile.gif its good for killing off free floating algae and could help you out there smile.gif
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post May 19 2008, 10:37 PM
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A UV steriliser would work, but it is reasoning the symptoms, not reasoning the cure, thus IM sould be saved untill a last resort. A Fluval 4+ possibly isn't enough. Assuming your tank is the minimum size for Mubuna, it needs help. If the tank is small enough for t to be suffice, you need an upgrade later shifty.gif

I'd look arround for a canister filter to share the load. You don't state you tank size anywhere, but I'll assume it's the second 40g in your sig. I'd go with a couple of Tetratec EX1200 filters, as two would give very powerful filtration for your tank, which is ehat you need in this set-up. If money is short ATM, go with one for now and run it along side the 4+, untill you can aford the second. At this point switch the 4+ for the second exturnal.
Don't change filters strait over without moving all your media into the new filter, or you will be left with an un-cycled tank, which is not good. If you change, run both side-by-side for 4 weeks, then remove 1/4 of the 4+'s media wach week untill you are reliant on the new filter yes.gif

I bought my Tetratec EX1200 form http://www.1st4aquatics.com, and their service was exelent. I ordered Friday evening, and it was deliverd at no extra cost on Monday morning for £69.99, which is their cheapest on-line price I could find yes.gif They are great filters, and the company I bought from kept me informed of the happenings all the way. Both are highly recomended by me.

Do you have a test kit? Water Stats for Ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH would be useful here. I need numbers as many LFS will just say "it's fine" when it isn't no.gif

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post May 20 2008, 03:48 PM
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Ok thankyou,

You asked for my nitrite, nitate and ammonia. Well my nitrite is 0, my nitrate is 0.3 and my ammonia is 0.
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post May 20 2008, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (FiSh123FiSh @ May 19 2008, 09:16 PM) *
Thanks for all the infomation it has made the whole thing alot clearer.

In my tank i have a fluval 4+, is this enough?

Tom

Hi,

The Fluval 4+ will not provide anywhere near enough filtration for an adult Mbuna tank - i would recommend adding a large external filter asap. Something like the Tetratec EX1200 that has already been suggested should be fine. good.gif
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post May 20 2008, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Ferris @ May 20 2008, 05:01 PM) *
QUOTE (FiSh123FiSh @ May 19 2008, 09:16 PM) *
Thanks for all the infomation it has made the whole thing alot clearer.

In my tank i have a fluval 4+, is this enough?

Tom

Hi,

The Fluval 4+ will not provide anywhere near enough filtration for an adult Mbuna tank - i would recommend adding a large external filter asap. Something like the Tetratec EX1200 that has already been suggested should be fine. good.gif


Indeed the teratec ex1200 is a great filter, you cant even hear it when its on, I have one on my mbuna tank and will shortly be adding another tetratex Ex1200 or a Fluval FX5 to my tank.
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post May 21 2008, 03:15 PM
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Gosh thats expensive for a kid! Have to save up! unless my parents can help out... shifty.gif

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post May 21 2008, 04:32 PM
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