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Feeding Your Fish Garlic?
Mikaila31
post Dec 5 2007, 10:58 PM
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I have heard this mentioned a few times or here. I googled and got a bunch of conflicting data rolleyes.gif . So who on here feeds their fish garlic? and What does it do?
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post Dec 5 2007, 11:29 PM
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I dont, but i heard that it is a natural food attractant.
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post Dec 5 2007, 11:32 PM
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It meant to stimulate a fish appetite.
Good for protecting fish from parasites.
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post Dec 5 2007, 11:33 PM
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How does it help protect them from parasite's? And what nutritional value is there?
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post Dec 5 2007, 11:37 PM
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This article might help out.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-10/sp/index.php
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post Dec 5 2007, 11:45 PM
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Thanks Wilder ! I tihnk i might be experimenting with garlic!
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post Dec 5 2007, 11:46 PM
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Important quote:

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There is no relationship between garlic's effect on bacterial infections and parasitic infestations. Also, the fish were not fed garlic-laced food; they were injected with garlic extract. That brings into question whether feeding fish garlic extract would be as effective as injecting them with it. Additionally, the garlic extract was prepared freshly for every injection. This is particularly important when taking into account the effectiveness of commercial preparation, and also in light of the fact that allicin, the active ingredient in garlic, is unstable and prone to breakdown in a relatively short amount of time (Cortes-Jorge 2000). Furthermore, since garlic is a non-natural food, the antigen effect of a novel compound may have been responsible for increased immune response, and although they used a negative control (nothing), they did not use a similar variable - i.e. onion, paprika, nutmeg, or whatever else one has in their spice cabinet that they think might somehow help their fish fight disease). And finally, even though all the fish showed improvement by the end of the study, none of the fish was completely healed. They all remained infected with Mycobacterium marinum, although at low levels.


The end result is that garlic has been shown to have some antibiotic effects, this has been latched upon and many hobbiests believe that it will cure anything up to and including AIDS


(Potential exaggeration in last sentence, but the point is made)

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Mikaila31
post Dec 5 2007, 11:57 PM
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I'm with kribensis12 now, I will be trying it out. How exactly do you prepare it?

Also will it protect my fish from those pesky vampires? hehe.gif
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post Dec 6 2007, 12:17 AM
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You soak the food in the garlic juice, it boosts the fish immune system.

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post Dec 6 2007, 01:15 AM
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Thanks wilder, your so helpful!
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post Dec 6 2007, 05:08 AM
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QUOTE (Wilder @ Dec 5 2007, 06:17 PM) *
You soak the food in the garlic juice, it boosts the fish immune system.


I think I did something wrong. I took a piece of garlic and chopped it up, but there was very little juice. Only enough to make the garlic stick to the cutting board. So I confused, how do you get the juice out of the garlic?
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post Dec 6 2007, 06:16 AM
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someone corret me if i'm wrong but you probably should chop the garlic up in a bowl and add some water. and there you have it, juice.
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:53 PM
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That might work, i will defo try it tonight.
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post Dec 7 2007, 09:55 PM
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I can honestly say this is the first time I've even heard of somebody feeding a fish garlic. Honestly, when I saw the topic title I thought somebody had lost it laugh.gif...so, I would like to apologize. I'll have to do some further research and try it myself smile.gif

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post Dec 7 2007, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE (Mikaila31 @ Dec 5 2007, 10:58 PM) *
I have heard this mentioned a few times or here. I googled and got a bunch of conflicting data rolleyes.gif . So who on here feeds their fish garlic? and What does it do?

I feed mine frozen brineshrimp and garlic, I am not sure what it does but they sure like it.
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post Dec 8 2007, 10:08 PM
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I am feeding my guppies garlic...

I bought them in a store, and all but one died from mysterious disease. They died one by one. The remainig fish I started to feed with garlic. Actually I cut the garlic in half and put it in the tank for her to nibble.

Than she had babies, and now I have a lot of guppies smile.gif I give them garlic twice a month. It is supposed to be antiparasitic and it is natural antibiotic. I also have otos and none of them died. But I haven't seen them eating garlic...
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post Dec 8 2007, 10:27 PM
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I too thought this was some silly idea that someone had made up until I saw this post and the link kindly provided by wilder. I will definately not be offering my fish garlic after reading through all that.

IMO it's all coincidence and as the article rightly pointed out;

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while many hobbyists report using garlic and then noticing an increase in feeding activity, there is no conclusive proof to this claim, either. It could be that the pungent and/or unrecognized/unnatural smell of the garlic brought the fish over to investigate the food, but there is no way of knowing whether or not they would have eaten food not treated with garlic, or whether or not any strong-smelling food additive would have done the same thing. It could also simply be that enough time had elapsed that the fish was finally prepared to eat and adding garlic was just a coincidence. Frankly, there are far too many variables to conclusively evaluate these claims


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Taking these points in order, first garlic has never been conclusively proven to cure Marine Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans), ever. Some hobbyists have used it and reported that their fish got better, but these are not controlled studies and none of these hobbyists know for certain if their fish's own natural immunity was the true reason for the cure, or if garlic had any impact whatsoever. Also, there are a number of hobbyists which have used garlic and suffered significant losses of fish as well.


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This brings me to my real point, which is that this highly flawed study is no better or worse than someone saying, "My fish would not eat. Then I added garlic extract to their food and they now eat great!" These reports are practically meaningless. Just as we cannot draw any conclusions from this public aquarium trial, nor can we draw any conclusions from similar unfounded statements made online


Until there have been some very indepth studys of using garlic on a 'hobbyist' level, as in not injecting it into the fish or directly onto the bacteria etc then I will not be using it smile.gif
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post Dec 8 2007, 10:32 PM
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No time right now to read the article, and my fish behave like pigs without garlic.

A hint for anybody who wants to try this:
I have used garlic juice in cooking. Cut up the garlic, place the flat of the knife against it on a hard surface, and press down hard on it to get the juice out. Don't use a grainy cutting board or you will never get the garlic juice out of the pores.
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