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Looking For Rare Livebearers?, UK
helterskelter
post Mar 14 2007, 06:50 AM
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Just saw these Characodon lateralis on e-bay..... their stuning fish and I used to keep them my self

Also like to say these are not my fish just though that if u like arae livebearers this would be a great chance to get the real rare stuff.......

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Corin Castle
post Mar 14 2007, 05:21 PM
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They look tempting... If you look on their description/needs, it says that they need quite hard water... what would you define as "hard water"? Over 10dGH... or higher...

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post Mar 14 2007, 05:32 PM
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Wow! They are indeed tempting, I'm not that in to Livebearers, but find anything rare exciting, plus I have a tank spare...
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post Mar 14 2007, 06:27 PM
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Well I decided to bid on them my self.

they come from mexico springs then the centeral area and the water in the springs there is hard due to calcification, They will do fine in any water but if you do have soft water then u need to harden it with coral sand etc etc
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post Mar 14 2007, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(helterskelter @ Mar 14 2007, 06:27 PM) [snapback]1532871[/snapback]
Well I decided to bid on them my self.

they come from mexico springs then the centeral area and the water in the springs there is hard due to calcification, They will do fine in any water but if you do have soft water then u need to harden it with coral sand etc etc


Soon it may be a bidding war! laugh.gif
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post Mar 14 2007, 09:45 PM
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LOL well i know how much I'll pay for them wink.gif
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post Mar 14 2007, 10:07 PM
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they are nice but i heard they can be quite aggressive, is that true? helter. are they community or not?
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post Mar 14 2007, 10:20 PM
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No their not community fish, they need a tank to their own.

In a large aquarium then will be fine with mid water fish as these are more of a bottom dweller, and the babies are 8-12mm in size. Thats due to the fact that the mother nusherious the fry like Mammals do.

Thes fish an be nasty to their own wound but once you get a family groupe they will leave the fry alone unless the tank gets over crowed.

I always advise to keep rare livebeares in a tank of their own.
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post Mar 14 2007, 10:45 PM
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good luck with the auction helter....fingers crossed for you
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post Mar 14 2007, 11:25 PM
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thanks.
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post Mar 15 2007, 06:29 PM
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Tell us how you get on with them ( if you get them... )

I'm quite interested...

I heard they need excellent filtration and become ill very easily...
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post Mar 15 2007, 11:38 PM
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No their very hardy fish and then for many years wil no problems and only ever use sponge filter's with them
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post Mar 16 2007, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(helterskelter @ Mar 14 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]1532871[/snapback]
Well I decided to bid on them my self.

they come from mexico springs then the centeral area and the water in the springs there is hard due to calcification, They will do fine in any water but if you do have soft water then u need to harden it with coral sand etc etc


They would be great for me then! w00t.gif However, it will be difficult to transport them all the way up to here, back to their roots.....
Don't you know anybody that breeds them here in Mexico? I am not willing to take them out of their natural habitat as they are endangered species.
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post Mar 16 2007, 08:56 PM
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Fish ark is based in Mexico and has many of the fish of Mexico breeding there and is slowly expanding.

http://www.fisharkmexico.org

I'll be going there next year as well a quite a few locations looking to see what fish are still there,
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post Mar 17 2007, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(helterskelter @ Mar 16 2007, 02:56 PM) [snapback]1535811[/snapback]
Fish ark is based in Mexico and has many of the fish of Mexico breeding there and is slowly expanding.

http://www.fisharkmexico.org

I'll be going there next year as well a quite a few locations looking to see what fish are still there,


Thanks!
I tried the link, but it says that it's hacked! by the 113-group?! do you know in which part of Mexico they're based? It's apretty big country.....
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post Mar 17 2007, 10:26 AM
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Yes they have had a problem with hacking of late

here is the aqualab thing........ I've never been for my trip next year will be my first time to Mexico but not the last...

http://home.clara.net/brachydibble/morelia_aqua_lab.htm
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post Mar 18 2007, 10:33 AM
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I suppose you will try to breed these goodeids Helter...

If you do manage to breed them, I was wondering where you wouls sell the resulting fry?

Just interested...

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post Mar 18 2007, 10:55 AM
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Well they will breed, breed them many time befor.
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post Mar 19 2007, 06:45 PM
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Where would you sell them when you have bred them? On ebay again, or...
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post Mar 19 2007, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(Corin Castle @ Mar 19 2007, 06:45 PM) [snapback]1539716[/snapback]
Where would you sell them when you have bred them? On ebay again, or...


Yes, good question.
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