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Ravi007
post May 19 2008, 08:45 PM
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Reposting in here because no-ones answering in the emergency section!!

Hiya guys. Problem ive got today is a unwell female dutch blue ram.For the past couple of days shes been breathing quite rapidly,I thort it just musta been stress from getting used to the tank (got them about 2 weeks ago).Today its just resting at the bottom,comes up to the top sometimes but isnt eating as much as it normally does..I have another male dutch ram in the tank and hes fine so I dont really think its anything to do with the tank (ammonia and nitrites are 0 and nitrates are low,around 10-20.

Does anyone know what it could be or is it just a phase? I really dont want to lose her as shes beautiful and become very fond of her! In the tank I have two corys,two amino shrimps,3 ottos and the two rams.

Thanks a lot.

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Tank size: 35 litres
pH:7.8
ammonia:0
nitrite:0
nitrate:10-20
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tank temp:27 degrees Celsius/80 Fahrenheit

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**edit** she has a stringy poo too!could it be indigestion?
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post May 19 2008, 09:01 PM
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Dont know what to tell u, I'm sure sopmbody else can help you out. Your pH is a on the high side for Rams but that shouldn't be the problem after 2 weeks.
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post May 19 2008, 09:12 PM
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yeh it is a bit but thats what the tap water is and im not too keen on changing the pH values with solutions or rocks etc unless it defo has to be done. I dont have tests for the water hardness but if its any help its Leicester tap water
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post May 20 2008, 03:26 AM
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I believe the higher the pH the harder the water, so I'm assuming since your pH is on the high side than your water hardness is on the high side. These factors make it even more difficult for your Rams to adapt. Try looking for more symptoms.
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post May 20 2008, 11:35 AM
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Also I bought the fish from Maidenhead Aquatics Stapleton and the guy there said they dont change the water parameters too much (in terms of pH hardness etc) so thats why I kept mine the pretty much the same. The female ram has gone lighter too and still today breathing rapidly sad.gif
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the only things it could be is the ph/hardness, but possibly not since its been 2 weeks.
the other thing that it could be is that the male has ben harrassing the female as you need a 2 foot tank for a piar of rams, 35litres is far far too small!!!!! crazy.gif

these are cichlids and need territory and hiding places , if not rams can become very territorial and kill the other ram .

i think that this could be your problem good.gif
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post May 22 2008, 03:47 PM
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Yuhp, definitely get a bigger tank. This may very well be your problem.
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post Jun 19 2008, 03:40 PM
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Hello all, new to forum, but joined here as I have the same problem.

I've had my pair for about 6 months though and it's the last couple of days that the female has shown the symptoms mentioned. Although she did go very dark to start with. She has gained some colour back today, but is very inactive. Breathing has stopped being so heavy. I have a 65litre tank. I did wonder whether it was down to the male being "over intentive" they have been quite active although due to other inhabitants, no young have appeared. As mentioned, the male is very healthy, is she just tired?

Thanks in advance for any other suggestions/information.


She just died sad.gif

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post Jun 19 2008, 07:59 PM
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QUOTE (Ravi007 @ May 19 2008, 09:45 PM) *
she has a stringy poo too!could it be indigestion?



Was going to say stringy white poo is a sign of internal parasites - gets some meds, but I see I am too late.

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