Gambusia X Guppy?, possible? |
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Gambusia X Guppy?, possible? |
Jun 5 2006, 12:04 AM
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![]() Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 24-April 06 From: Boston, Massachusetts Member No.: 20846 |
Would it bpossible to cross a guppy with a mosquitofish? (gambusia affinis)
I want to know before I mix them together. But If I don't lol my snakeskin gourami might swallow them. This post has been edited by meepster: Jun 5 2006, 12:04 AM |
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Jun 5 2006, 02:27 AM
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![]() - l l a m a s - Group: Members Posts: 2418 Joined: 23-March 06 From: British Columbia, Canada Member No.: 20038 |
I do believe it's possible.. but you have to do male gambusia to female guppy, as the female gambusia are usually larger and more aggressive..
I think that's how it's done.. |
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Jun 6 2006, 11:21 PM
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Stephen Group: Members Posts: 3673 Joined: 5-June 04 From: Kenosha, Wisconsin Member No.: 6723 |
Definately possible, but the female gambusia are very agressive and will definately kill your guppies. The male gambusia are not quite as visious as the females, but still have the tendancy to nip and harass.
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Jun 6 2006, 11:28 PM
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![]() Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 24-April 06 From: Boston, Massachusetts Member No.: 20846 |
QUOTE(GuppyDude @ Jun 6 2006, 07:21 PM) [snapback]1210560[/snapback] Definately possible, but the female gambusia are very agressive and will definately kill your guppies. The male gambusia are not quite as visious as the females, but still have the tendancy to nip and harass. hmm lol I put em in with my gourami and my gourami died This post has been edited by meepster: Jun 12 2006, 06:03 PM |
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Jun 12 2006, 10:15 AM
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how is that funny?
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Jun 12 2006, 06:03 PM
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![]() Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 24-April 06 From: Boston, Massachusetts Member No.: 20846 |
whoops wrong smiley lol.
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Jun 12 2006, 07:37 PM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Allentown, PA, USA Member No.: 19316 |
smooth lol
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Jun 13 2006, 08:11 PM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Newsletter Team Posts: 604 Joined: 5-May 06 From: dublin , R.O.I. Member No.: 21132 |
thats ok , sometimes i wonder if people who are laughing very hard are actually crying
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Jun 14 2006, 07:11 PM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Allentown, PA, USA Member No.: 19316 |
im trying gambusia x endler, i wonder how that'll work out
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Jun 14 2006, 08:31 PM
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![]() Fishaholic Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 24-April 06 From: Boston, Massachusetts Member No.: 20846 |
yu would get a gambusia and a dead endler
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Jun 14 2006, 08:36 PM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Allentown, PA, USA Member No.: 19316 |
no, if the endler is female and te gambusiais male, it can quite possibly happen
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Jun 15 2006, 06:12 PM
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Stephen Group: Members Posts: 3673 Joined: 5-June 04 From: Kenosha, Wisconsin Member No.: 6723 |
yea, an endler gambusia pair should work, you've just gotta watch the agression, visious buggars.
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Jan 21 2007, 02:39 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 24-July 06 Member No.: 23169 |
personally believe endlers and guppies should be in the genus gambisia not poecilia
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Jan 22 2007, 01:22 AM
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![]() don't be a twit Group: Members Posts: 3848 Joined: 7-February 05 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Member No.: 11658 |
i definitely wouldn't hybridize endlers and gambusia, simply due to the dramatic size differences between females in each species.
if you cross male endler to female gambusia, then you'll get a dead endler due to the high aggression of the female gambusia. if you cross female endler to male gambusia, then you'll get a dead or damaged endler due to internal organ compression during the pregnancy. female endlers aren't even remotely the same size as female gambusia thus they wouldn't have room to carry full-sized gambusia fry (this is without considering the possibility of "hybrid vitality") |
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Jan 22 2007, 02:13 AM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1232 Joined: 26-April 06 From: Scotland (UK) Member No.: 20922 |
QUOTE(pica_nuttalli @ Jan 22 2007, 01:22 AM) [snapback]1455594[/snapback] i definitely wouldn't hybridize endlers and gambusia, simply due to the dramatic size differences between females in each species. if you cross male endler to female gambusia, then you'll get a dead endler due to the high aggression of the female gambusia. if you cross female endler to male gambusia, then you'll get a dead or damaged endler due to internal organ compression during the pregnancy. female endlers aren't even remotely the same size as female gambusia thus they wouldn't have room to carry full-sized gambusia fry (this is without considering the possibility of "hybrid vitality") Wow thanks I was about to put in 2 small male gambusia with my endler trio(not as a hybrid experiment though), ill just leave them where they are I think. |
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Jan 27 2007, 04:01 AM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 22-February 06 From: Allentown, PA, USA Member No.: 19316 |
Don't worry I never even got endlers or gambusia. I captured some gambusia in Gerogia, but then I decided to leave them in their natural habitat.
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Jan 27 2007, 02:22 PM
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![]() www.viviparous.org.uk Group: Members Posts: 2946 Joined: 12-November 06 From: Dorset, UK Member No.: 26497 |
Livebearers crosses are difficualt and need to be clearly documented.
A Gambusia and endler would not resualt in fry, these are two comleatly differnt genuses of fish and the gonopodium structre is wronge. To cross u need 2 species of a simular genus. Guppies and mollys are the same genus, but still rarely cross and have only ever seen 1 documented photo. Ditto for endler molly cross ![]() QUOTE(fishcollector @ Jan 21 2007, 03:39 AM) [snapback]1454220[/snapback] personally believe endlers and guppies should be in the genus gambisia not poecilia Why? Just look at the structure of the gonopoduim and explain? This post has been edited by helterskelter: Jan 27 2007, 02:24 PM |
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