Hey, my angels all seem to have one fin damaged and clamped. Their appetites are still their. On the fin there is a small white embellishment too. One angel who looks farther on in the sickness hangs about on his own and eats, but doesnt swim after food.

Size of tank in galons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

Can you describe the embellishment in more detail, does it look like a growth, a cluster of eggs, or a caulifower.

It is a 32 UK Gallon, is tall enough for angels.
Ph is 6.9
There are Four Angels, One Plec and Three Kribensis.
Water stats are all normal. I noticed the Blemish as soon as i bought them.
They have one raggedy pectoral fin, with a white blemish. It isnt 3-D it is just a small white patch. The four angels are new. They were acclimatised properly. On the lone angels gill, it looks like the flap has been worn away, as it has one full 'flap' and one 1/2 flap, where is is red underneath.
I have Fungus and finrot and anti internal parasites in my cupboard.

So its a white patch on the fin does it look fluffy in appearance.
The gill plate was the fish born that way as that can mean a number of things down to vitamin definciency.
Does the gill look red and inflamed.
Any excess mucas on the gill.
Any signs of flicking and rubbing.
The interpet anti fungus and finrot med is not that great on finrot,. waterlife myxazin is better.
Fish that have lost the gill plate can to be kept in excellent water quality.

This post has been edited by Wilder: Jul 16 2008, 06:35 PM

It is like white splodges on the fin tip. The gill looks inflamed. It also has an enflamed anal hole.

Ok you could be dealing with parasites.
Enlarged inflamed anus can be internal parasites,
What does it look like when the fish goes to the toilet.
Does the fish look skinny or bloated.
Any worms prutruding from the anus.
http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/php/detail62_45492.php

This post has been edited by Wilder: Jul 16 2008, 06:48 PM

I can't see any worms but its poo is really translucent and stringy and long. So could it just be that the angels gills have always been like that, and the odd behaviour, clamped embellished fin is because of parasites? can you reccomend a good cure? Also, where there pectoral fins come out of their body, the joint is enflamed. It would explane why the kribs have been flicking on their side on the gravel i suppose Im just glad it isnt angel disease!



The fish doesnt look bloated, or skinny. The poo has gone now and it is just a bit of white fluff protruding out.

The signs of long stringy white poo or clear mucas poo can be internal parasites.
I would get the discus wormer to see how they go, really you need a med from the vet for internal parasties.
Once a fish gets really skinny due to internal parasites the damage has been done, as they damage the internal organs,.
Also internal parasites cause bacterial infections,.
Once you used the wormer plus back up with a bacterial med.
Does the fish look in a bad way,

This post has been edited by Wilder: Jul 16 2008, 07:04 PM

They all look fine! its just the fact they have a fin clamped and slightly torn. In the house i have meds for internal parasites, so if i use it with a general bacteria med should that work? im starting to think it is finrot, or fungis though...

Whats the med called you have for internal parasites.
You can use the bacterial med with some internal parasties meds it depends on which brand it is.

You really need this med.
Metronidazole 4 mg/L for 3 to 4 days Hexamita change water with each treatment. Poorly soluble

http://www.fishforums.net/content/forum/10...eral-Parasites/

This post has been edited by Wilder: Jul 16 2008, 07:15 PM

It is Interpet anti internal med. What bacterial med do you think would do?

You said you have an internal parasite med the anti internal bacteria med by interpeti for internal bacteria infection not parasites.

My mistake, it is anti-internal bacteria meds. I can only get meds from my LFS so what would you reccomend i do?

I would get that wormer plus you can buy it online in the link.
Or phone a vet for some Metronidazole it's for internal parasites.

Is it going to be expensive? Will thay have to order it or will they allready have it in stock? Can i buy it as im 15?
(Thats for the Metronidazole)

This post has been edited by wackystarfish: Jul 16 2008, 07:39 PM

You would have to get your mum to ring the vets and say one of my angels has internal parasites, is it possible to perscribe some Metronidazole


Or just buy the wormer plus online and see how the fish go.

This post has been edited by Wilder: Jul 16 2008, 07:41 PM

i'm not sure its worms though... I can't see any, and arnt they normally visable?

No there not always visable.
Signs of internal worms are.
Red inflamed anus or enlarged anus.
Long stringy white poo, or clear mucas poo.
Being thin or bloated.
Worms prutruding from the anus.

Ok. So if i buy the metronidazole, or a med with it in it, and also add a general bactereal infection med, they should be ok?
What general bacteria med do you think would be good? It would be better if i could get it from my LFS.
What are the chances of my fish recovering? Should i just take them back to the LFS? I have had them about 3 days.

This post has been edited by wackystarfish: Jul 16 2008, 07:49 PM

Best bacteria meds are the anti internal bacteria med by interpet.
Waterlife myxazin.
http://www.fishforums.net/content/forum/14...tion-In-The-Uk/