Well i picked them up from Carmenandalex on Saturday. I have a new home waiting to be set up for them (4ft tank, black sand, beautiful bogwood, java moss and a tetratec EX1200 ), shes had them breeding for a while now and i figured if i could get them in the mood when there new home is ready all the better

This is the tank (The pic is dark sorry a bulb blew lol):



Heres the bogwood (£17 worth >.>):



At the moment there in the community tank and i added some java moss yesterday. I was just going to carpet a coconut cave so i moved the java moss, im glad i did because now (safe in a breeding net) i have these:



I can see around 10 eggs in total!

Thanks Carmen your a star, i hope these fry are as cute as yours


Anyone have any suggestions as how best to look after the eggs and fry?

Tank's looking awesome mate,just need to get it fully set up and cycled now!!

And I can't believe your panda's have spawned already,i only came with you to pick them up yesterday!!!

WOW , that was super quick. Although, I have to say, you caught them really well and they didn't look one bit stressed when you left. Well done.

You could remove just the strands of java moss with eggs on them, and attach the rest to your cave (a long process, I know). But on the other hand, leaving that in the net will provide them with food (inforcea sp?).

I generally just make sure the net has a filter outlet pointed at it, so it's got good flow over the eggs to keep them fresh. If you have some small snails (the kind you'd normally squash), put them in the net and they'll keep the eggs fungus free (even if they're not fertile, that'd stop it spreading to the other eggs).

Microworms will be great first food. I also feed mine Hikari baby bites that I got off ebay. But only on the 3rd day, these fry have lovely yolk sacs).

I keep mine in the net for a few weeks, probably around 4-5 weeks.

Just let me know if there is anything else you need to know. It was great meeting you guys yesterday. Good luck with your little one.

Hehe you should have seen our other "little one", he was asleep in the car with my sister

I was suprised i caught them so fast aswell, i think it was the sand that helped. There fertile when they get a black dot, is that right? I have liquifry for them but no baby bites. Is it 3 days for them to hatch, then start feeding?

It was great meeting you aswell, you have a lovely home and some very very nice fish!

Didn't know you're little man was in the car. Bet he is a cutie. Mine would have loved to see a "baby" (anyone smaller than them is classed as a baby).

Dark dots are a good sign. They take longer than C. Aeneus eggs to hatch. Probably about 4-5 days. You generally leave them for a couple days and start feeding day 3. I feed my babies very tiny amounts of food, 3 times a day. Breaksfast, lunch and supper.

I ordered some Hikari baby bites on Ebay Wednesday and it was here Saturday morning. Pretty good, just over £2-00.

Good luck and look forward to seeing baby pics. Bet they'll be cuties.

Ok so 3 days after they hatch i should feed them?

I have one final question, how did you manage to get the eggs into the breeding net? Im having a little trouble getting them and moving them out!

Do you mean off the java moss? I just pull the strand of java moss the eggs are attached to and put it in the net. If it's stuck to the glass, roll it off with your finger and attach to java moss in the net. I know people use sharp blades to remove them, but they also start floating off when freed from the glass. If that happens, I use a turkey baster (specially bought for the tank) to suck them up and place into the net.

How the eggs looking this morning? I had my Trilineatus spawning all of yesterday in Alex's tank, and now have loads of eggs from them. Typical, we're moving this weekend and they start spawning.

Speak soon
Carmen

They look ok, i can see some have black spots in them, we had 5 more over night but only managed to save 1 before the guppys got at them. Just ordered some hikari first bites and im taking the guppys to my LFS later, just dont have the room for them!

Going to order some more moss aswell, i have the whole clump in a net atm

Congrats on spawning your others! Bet your gutted your moving now >.<

Sounds good. By this weekend you'll be proud grandparents (well, that's how I refer to myself after finding baby fish).

The pandas could, it has happened a few times, spawn every night, or every second. The group in our lounge tank would spawn like that, every night or every second night. We had loads of fry.

The Hikari baby food, I have found, is the best commercial fry food you can get. Microworms are brilliant live food, as well as Grindal worms, but with commercial, it's gotta be Hikari. I haven't had loads of pollution (like liqui-fry and flakes gives you) and it's so fine, it falls through the net and the other fish get to eat it. Don't worry about how much the fry get. They have tiny bellies and small amounts are enough for them.

As for moving, I am really worried about all the fish. There are quite a few I am VERY fond of, especially my L260's. But I'm sure it will be ok and I'll probably loose a few of the really small fry. I have battled to raise Trilli fry before, so I'm not holding my breath on this lot.

Look forward to hearing about your new babies, although I'm not sure when I'll be online again after this weekend. We've got BT putting the phone in tomorrow at the new house and we need to find a new service provider (current one is naff and we battle to go online after 8pm at night). Plus there is still loads of decorating and deciding where the PC goes. So may be a while.

I grabbed some primafix (i think >.>) stuff today which with a few drops into the tank should keep the eggs fungus free Also grabbed a few live plants and a cave, and some other bits >.>

Good luck with the house move, il keep you updated on my fry

Well some more pics:

Here is the set up that is there home atm:







Here is where there new home will be:







That last pic has the fry tank in it, its under the 4ft tank split into 2 sections

Going to add some nice plants and cover the bogwood in java moss. Might add a L018 aswell

One final thing, is this egg fertalised or not?

Nice. Looks like a lovely little home you have for them there Aaron.

I'd say that last egg isn't fertile. Are there and dark spots? Have you got some small snails to put in there? They'll stop it from fungusing. If it doesn't look like the others, not dark moving baby inside, rather chuck it. You should be seeing the babies moving around in the eggs soon. They don't move constantly, but I have seen with all the spawns so far, babies moving in the eggs. It's very cute.

Good luck and look forward to pics of the fry.

Yeah 1/2 the eggs have dark spots, but i had a few more eggs last night and some more being laid atm, so its hard to know which were laid when.... if that makes sense lol

Im using primafix i think its called to stop any fungus. A little drop a day to help it out.

Wow, they sound like a bunch of rabbits. They're obviously very happy to be spawning so often. That's brilliant.

I've not used Primafix before for fungus. I had the snails accidently in the net from the plants and found they were brilliant at keeping it all clean. A plec breeding friend of fine suggested them too for keeping eggs fungus free.

Just removed all the white eggs, there were 4 or 5. And yeah i could see little black dots wiggling about! Only a couple of days till they arrive! Just fished out 4 more eggs aswell

Well this morning i had 12 tadpoles and 3 eggs in my DIY ice cream tub breeding net. I decided to use my DIY one because i could get a 8" air stone in it.

Alas i now have 3 tadpoles and after this mornings collection, about 8 eggs.

Looks like the little fry escaped out of the mesh as the holes were too large. I noticed it when 2 of them forced there way through and darted down into the gravel. The others are back in a standard breeding net now, i think i might order a larger one from eBay soon.

What are the chances of the fry surviving in the tank? Stocking is:

2 BN plecs, 11 corys, 5 harlequins and a shrimp.

Im so incredibily gutted right now

Congrats on the hatchilngs. I didn't realise you had the net with the larger holes. I had that before when I was breeding the C. Aeneus, them pushing their way out the net. But, as long as the little blighters are able to hide well, and find food, especially in the gravel, I'm sure you'll get a few survive.

Do you have a turkey baster? If you see them, you can suck them up and just put them back into the net. I know, very hard to do when you have a tank FULL of gravel, ornaments, plants and other fish. But sometimes the little buggers sit right in front of you.

Good luck, and don't worry, they'll lay more and you may find some small pandas swimming around your tank in a couple of months.

Of course, my trilineatus eggs hatched this morning and we've just started moving the tank!!! Typical. We're moving them up the house this weekend. Always the way.

I really hope you manage to save a few this time! Always the same isnt it, they dont spawn for ages then just as you dont want them to.... BAM. lol >.>