He hasn't been swimming about much, only really to get air
He looks a bit grey around the face and gill area, is this normal?
I put some tonic salts in the tank and did a water change but it hasn't made a difference, the female on the other side of the tank is fine. Any ideas?

Thanks for any help

ant ideas?

maybe post this in the emergency section

I might think swim bladder...

Any chance of a picture? And also your water stats if you got them?

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not likely.... possibly, but there is not enough info to determine that.

water stats, how long have you owned the betta, tank setup, etc.?? The more information the better.

if there are probs, remove that female immediately.

pictures and detailed explanation of the issue are the two best ways to help your betta.

Right then, here's the pics

When I first saw him looking ill i did a water change and added tonic salts.

Maybe he's just lazy, but it looks more ill to me. I need some new test strips, but the water normallt tests fine, my other tank and other betta seems ok. The temp. is 27*c.

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this is the female, she doesn't look ill





and their tank, not very inspiring i know, but i should be replanting it tomorrow with real plants



any help, advice, suggestion appreciated!

This post has been edited by ryanp15: May 21 2008, 10:53 PM

No pics.....you need to copy in the IMG code

thanks netty! it worked the third time

You're right he does look grey around his face. Can you see if there is any kind of fungus in this area?

hmm not sure on the male problem, but theres something about your female that makes me think its a male , anyone else think this? or am i completely wrong

there doesn't appear to be a fungus do they go grey as they age? maybe i was sold an old betta just a random guess though.
I think i'll do another water change tomorow when I add more plants, see if that helps at all.




I have actually thought that a couple of times, but she has an ovipositor (i think that's what it's called). When she flares there's no beard bit underneath like the male.

have you got a pic of her flareing?

yeah that does look somewhat male to me as well.

.... hmmm..... that could be old age... you're definitely right about him not looking right. If all the water stats check out, then just keep the water clean and at a good temp and hope for the best. keep a close on him so you can catch anything that may be developing early.

i havn't got a flaring one they do it too quickly and i miss it.
can males have the little white thing though? i thought this was just females

i find it strange that the male looks ill but the female is perfectly fine. i'll keep the water clean, see what happens

unless anyone else knows anything

Juvie males can also show a white oviposter so it's not always a guarantee of a female.

Like you say....do another water change tomorrow and keep a close eye on him. I hope he perks up again.....he's such a gorgeous guy and not nice to see him not looking himself

he looked so nice last week! he changed really quickly
but yep i'll see how he does tomorrow.

definitely keep us updated. it would be great to have some good news among all the "betta problem" threads.

best of luck! you are doing everything you can.