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Indian almond leaf, Almost everything you need to know...
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post Dec 23 2004, 02:38 AM
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thanks for the tip yeeviabetta, and welcome to the forums wink.gif
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post Jan 5 2005, 08:35 PM
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Hello,
I'm just wondering which one is "better". Blackwater extract that you can buy from your lfs, or actual Indian Almond Leaves? I see some people selling real leaves on Aquabid/eBay, etc. I've also seen ones sold as "Indian Almond Leave teabags". Are these teabag versions the same as the putting in a real leaf? Just wondering which is best.

I checked the Buy&Sell on this forum, but don't see anyone selling any.

Thanks in advance for any info!
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post Jan 5 2005, 10:09 PM
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Indian Almond Leave teabags are the same as a whole leaf. Only they pack it for easy to do it. Just like make a lipton tea in a bag. So it cost more by the way. If I were you, get the cheapest one like 100 leafs because they will give you more and they work the same.
Indian Almond leave is great for betta and it's been in history that people been using it. I still prefer my malaysia food in my home town for sure. LOL If your betta don't feels good, make the indian almond leaf solution darker and the betta will getting better.
As for black water, I use Waters of the world native water conditioner and makesure it is Southeast asia and india and from Mardel. Get in in aquabid for 4.50 per bottle. Cheap becuase they sell like 9.99. You can get more bottle with the same price and safe the shipping cost.
I think both combination are the best. Half half portion are best. I have my females been laying eggs 5 to 6 times now and they still doing great. Even the red halfmoon from thailand still have the bright color in them. Get both and makesure they are cheap. They work the same. LOL tongue2.gif
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post Jan 5 2005, 11:09 PM
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Thanks for your input yeeviabetta! biggrin.gif

I found some that sell the "tea bag" form for about $0.40/bag. How much are leaves usually?

Thanks again everyone. smile.gif

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post Jan 5 2005, 11:18 PM
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Wou. If you buy 100, it cost $40.00. I think I only paid $20.00 from aquabid for 100 leafs and they gave me around 170 plus. In Malaysia, you can get if for free. All you have to go and collect them. tongue2.gif
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post Jan 6 2005, 07:28 PM
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If you raise fry in water treated with IAL would that affect how they react to regular water once they find new homes?

I've heard that once they get used to it that they will do badly if taken out and put in untreated water. So I would assume being raised in the treated water would make them accustomed to it.

Anyone?? unsure.gif
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post Jan 6 2005, 11:45 PM
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SRC- copied from above for ya smile.gif

QUOTE (bkk_group)
QUOTE (jacblades @ Jun 16 2004, 09:32 PM)
i didnt know it had medicinal properties!
the thing about the "betta spa" though-it says they rotate which fish go in the spa but then it says that bettas raised in those conditions could be harmed if switched to aged treated tap water. i suppose that means if they spend their whole lievs in there. but wouldnt it still stress them out to switch back to tap after the spa?

our bettas don't spend their entire lives in indian almond leaf water, when we first started using it we would drop a leaf into our water holding (ie. aging) tank for water changes. after finding out about the dangers of using it exclusively we switched to once a month in a specific tank. doing it this way (especially if it's part of a routine) causes no harm. because we breed and sell our fish we knew that the average owner wouldn't be aware of indian almond leaf and wanted to have fish that weren't reliant on it but rather benefited from a regular exposure to it. wink.gif
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post Jan 7 2005, 01:12 PM
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Wild Bettas been living in this type of solution for generations. The longer you soak, the acidic it gonna be. You need to have the PH level around 7 to 7.5. 7.2 PH are the best. Also depends what type of betta you got. I soak 5 gallon of water with one leaf (medium size) for one day and then take it out. The longer you soak, the darker color it be. I like it lighter color and mild and that is it. If too dark, you can mixed with age water. I do added the black water too and make it lighter too. If you do this, the betta will have longer life spand and the color are brighter especially thailand import bettas. smile.gif If the betta getting sick, make the solution stronger. My red sulthasine halfmoon was not feeling good after breeding and I been treating him with this solution. He is back to normal now and start bubbling under the leaves. smile.gif

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post Jan 13 2005, 04:49 PM
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Ok I'm going to buy some and try with my poor crowntail. I have some questions though:

1. What should I be paying for them? I found an Ebay add for $10 for $5 +3.00 S/H(they say they throw in 7 free if you use buy it now) . And a website (siasbettas or something) for 10 for $6.00 + $4.50 S/h. Are these good prices? AB is down indefinately..so I gotta work with what I can find for now.

2. I need to break this down for 1 gallon incriments. All instructions I find say 1 leaf to 10 gallons. Should I should divide it up and break it off?

3. How long should I treat for, and how do I swap him back over to plain water afterwards...or should I?

sad.gif I just want my fish to be ok..but there are so many things to cover when they are sick. confused.gif

**edit** nevermind on teh prices..I found a really good price at Majesticbettas. 10 leaves (6-11" each) for $4.5 + 2.50 S/H. Wow.

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post Jan 13 2005, 11:22 PM
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Hello,
I ordered and am waiting to receive some from Wasan on Aquabid. Eventhough AB is down, you can still order from him on www.wasanbetta.com. I think the prices are pretty close. Mine was $19.99 (including shipping/handling) for 50 of the "tea bag" style ones.

I'm eagerly waiting to receive them so I can use them.

Good luck with your guy that is losing colour, by the way.
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post Jan 14 2005, 12:16 AM
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can anyone tell me if anyof these almond products can be bought in england? I have tried to breed previously with no success and wish to try again but with difference. cheers natalie coolx.gif
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post Feb 6 2005, 12:47 AM
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Lol I just got home from buying some Indian Almond Leaves. 4 leaves for a dollar. whistling.gif
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post Sep 7 2005, 04:38 PM
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oh and in my other tank i got:

various shrimp
apple snails
ramhorn snails
MTS snails
5 asian rummynose tetras
2 killi fish
few dwarf corydoras and hastatus

any idea?


thanks if your reading my babble tongue2.gif biggrin.gif
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post Apr 14 2006, 07:46 PM
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i'm looking for some of these leaves i did see some on ebay a few times in britain i duno if their still on though.

cheers for the article i'm going to use the advise good.gif
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post Apr 14 2006, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(jayjay @ Apr 14 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1151012[/snapback]

i'm looking for some of these leaves i did see some on ebay a few times in britain i duno if their still on though.

cheers for the article i'm going to use the advise good.gif

I can sort you some leaves out if you still want them, PM me with the number of leaves you want and I'll see if I can sort you out.
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post Oct 15 2006, 01:52 PM
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do u think u guys can sell me some fighter plakats
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post Nov 10 2006, 01:23 AM
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They are now selling bottles of Indian almond leaf extract! I'm getting some!
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post Nov 10 2006, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(niell4real @ Oct 15 2006, 01:52 PM) [snapback]1343560[/snapback]

do u think u guys can sell me some fighter plakats



If you want PK's try UK Betta forum.
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post Feb 13 2007, 08:28 PM
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I just purchased a product called "Attison's Betta SPA" and added it to my 5 gallon Betta tank when I transfered him. I didn't know it had medicinal properties and I treated him with Bettafix last night for fin rot. Can I still treat him? Also, you're not supposed to keep them in the Betta SPA water?? It gives 2 dosages, 1 for conditioning the water, which I just did, and the other for maintenance such as replacing some during water changes. It didn't mention being harmful if being kept it there all the time.

P.S. The Betta SPA is the same thing mentioned on this thread, and you can buy it at www.drsfostersmith.com

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