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Mikaila31
post Feb 18 2008, 10:17 PM
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I agree with kraken, there is nothing wrong with glow fish.
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post Feb 20 2008, 04:25 AM
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i dont have a problem with the glo-fish as they arent harmed by the process. It does lead down a steep path though. i have however convinced two of my three lfs to no longer carry dyed fish. And i have stopped people from buying them in the third store a number of times while lurking and looking at there selection to see if they have nething i can have one of the other stores get in for me.
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post Feb 25 2008, 10:58 PM
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When I was in Hong Kong I spoke with the owner of a store which sold lots of parrots (but not tail docked or dyed ones interestingly enough). I asked about the colours and he said that they came in two main colours, yellow and orange and he had two large tanks full of each so I doubt these fish have been dip-dyed then tatooed, just tattooed.

As to the tattooing, unlike most people its not really the fishes choice to be tatooed so to me its kind of like what the Nazis did to the Jewish people in WW2, abuse. As to the genetically modified fish, i am totally opposed to genetic engineering. I think that species (eventhough defining a species is sometimes hard!) evolved naturally over time to develop unique traits and genetic makeups. To try and compare hybridisation or artificial selection to this is ridiculous because under "natural" conditions there is absolutely no way that such genetic combinations could be made. 2 different species of neotropical cichlids making babies, I can see that happen. But a jellyfish and a freshwater fish? I think not.

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post Mar 4 2008, 10:35 PM
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Wow, I started a thread and then couldn't get back to it very often and it exploded. LOL!

Dying fish is horrible and there is only one lfs out of four or five here that sale them and I refuse to shop there. Not to mention the lady who runs the fish department there is a B**** (excuse me but it's true) I WISH I could get them to stop selling the dyed fish, but I'm not exactly sure how to go about doing that.

Any suggestions?

On another note. A fish that said I love you on it would creep me out. Just thought I should mention that. Next thing you know fish are gonna be made for swimming bill boards. And that is so wrong.
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post May 7 2008, 10:10 PM
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the parrots are tattooed

it just goes to show how little respect the breeders have for the man made parrot as no other fish has been tattooed or had its tail cut off to make a heart shape
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post May 8 2008, 10:03 AM
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Parrots are ugly enough as it is let alone tattooing them crazy.gif

This is clearly messed up, all we can do though is try our best to limit demand by letting people know the truth smile.gif
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post May 8 2008, 12:23 PM
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I'm sure this sounds horribly racist, but I honestly can't see those fish having a market outside of Asia.
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post May 8 2008, 07:55 PM
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i people stopped buy the parrot of ANY kind then they would stop making them

their are so many nice fish around that are not man made why do people even consider buying them

you say their is only a market for this kind of fish in asia but i wonder how many dyed parrots have been sold in the US or UK

you have to be careful what you say about hybrids in this part of the forum but IMO the parrot in genral is just wrong
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post May 9 2008, 12:25 AM
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The only dyed fish that i have seen are what stores call "i love you" mollies, they have been dyed toi have the shape of a heart on their sides, im not a fan of mollies but these ones are even worse.......grrr.... ppl are irritating.
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post Jun 18 2008, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE (AdamWH @ Feb 13 2008, 10:24 PM) *
Just out of curiosity, can parrots be kept sucsessfuly with goldfish? The tank in the picture has a couple of shubinkins in with them.


No.. Not that i know of. I would say that the goldfish wouldnt last in the warm waters your parrot needs, or vise versa.
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post Jun 18 2008, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (Soaup @ Jun 18 2008, 03:58 PM) *
QUOTE (AdamWH @ Feb 13 2008, 10:24 PM) *
Just out of curiosity, can parrots be kept sucsessfuly with goldfish? The tank in the picture has a couple of shubinkins in with them.


No.. Not that i know of. I would say that the goldfish wouldnt last in the warm waters your parrot needs, or vise versa.


Goldfish do fine in tropical conditions although the parrots would probably bully them.
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post Jun 20 2008, 08:51 AM
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well said Mr. T
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post Jun 20 2008, 03:32 PM
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well, it is china they get sharks to fight each other, as well as bugs so they see much wrong with it

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post Jun 20 2008, 03:34 PM
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Do parrots start out a different color?

I remember when I originally bought my parrot he was yellow. Not bright yellow, just yellow, with a black streak down his side. He's completely orange now. He wasn't dyed was he? I'm just afraid I had bought a dyed fish without my knowledge, and the dye faded over time.
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post Jun 20 2008, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (afireinside @ Jun 20 2008, 04:34 PM) *
Do parrots start out a different color?

I remember when I originally bought my parrot he was yellow. Not bright yellow, just yellow, with a black streak down his side. He's completely orange now. He wasn't dyed was he? I'm just afraid I had bought a dyed fish without my knowledge, and the dye faded over time.


If your parrot started out yellow and faded to ornage then yes he would have been dyed.
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post Jun 21 2008, 12:17 AM
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Wow, I would've never guessed that Petsmart sold dyed fish, I've never seen any there before.
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post Jun 21 2008, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (funkyhoney @ May 8 2008, 01:23 PM) *
I'm sure this sounds horribly racist, but I honestly can't see those fish having a market outside of Asia.



i live in the uk where its illegal to sell them angry.gif

i would die to have glo fish,they look ace!!!
its not like they are harmed in any way,jus see it as nature,only cooler w00t.gif
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post Jun 21 2008, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (dem0nz @ Jun 21 2008, 08:08 PM) *
QUOTE (funkyhoney @ May 8 2008, 01:23 PM) *
I'm sure this sounds horribly racist, but I honestly can't see those fish having a market outside of Asia.



i live in the uk where its illegal to sell them angry.gif

i would die to have glo fish,they look ace!!!
its not like they are harmed in any way,jus see it as nature,only cooler w00t.gif


I saw some in a shop in Scotland, apparently some accidentally got into the uk but most were destroyed.
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post Jun 22 2008, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (~T~ @ Jun 22 2008, 12:02 AM) *
QUOTE (dem0nz @ Jun 21 2008, 08:08 PM) *
QUOTE (funkyhoney @ May 8 2008, 01:23 PM) *
I'm sure this sounds horribly racist, but I honestly can't see those fish having a market outside of Asia.



i live in the uk where its illegal to sell them angry.gif

i would die to have glo fish,they look ace!!!
its not like they are harmed in any way,jus see it as nature,only cooler w00t.gif


I saw some in a shop in Scotland, apparently some accidentally got into the uk but most were destroyed.


yeah, some arrived in my lfs in the midlands called "Pink Danio"
which we destroyed, upon realisation.
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