Dyed Fish Sales Not Being Outlawed In Uk, Lets make some noise |
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Dyed Fish Sales Not Being Outlawed In Uk, Lets make some noise |
Feb 23 2006, 11:53 AM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1016 Joined: 20-July 04 From: Home of the Crooked Spire (Derbyshire,UK) Member No.: 8116 |
PLEASE READ THIS FIRST
I propose that we all write to our MP's to get the import and sale of dyed fish added into the bill and I have drafted a letter to use. QUOTE Dear MP As my elected representative in the houses of parliament I feel I must write to you to ask for your support in getting the abhorrent practice of dying fish stopped. The following is from an article in Practical Fishkeeping Magazine ________________________________________________________________________________ Defra has confirmed that the proposed Animal Welfare Bill will not make it illegal for shops to sell fish that have been injected or tattooed with dyes. Many trade experts had assumed that the proposed Animal Welfare Bill, which is currently being produced by the Government, would make it possible to prosecute shops that sell aquarium fish that had been mutilated in this manner. However, Practical Fishkeeping has now received confirmation from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs that the proposed Animal Welfare Bill will actually do little to curb the trade in dyed fish. Speaking on behalf of Ben Bradshaw MP, Alexandra Davies of Defra told Practical Fishkeeping: "There are no plans at present to introduce a ban on the sale of dyed fish in this country under the Animal Welfare Bill. ________________________________________________________________________________ How It’s Done Several methods are used to alter the colour and appearance of tropical fish. Colouring fish stresses them and makes them more susceptible to disease. Young fish that are not fully grown are often stunted by the painting process. Some methods result in mortality rates as high as 80%. Many of the survivors will have an abbreviated life span. Nine out of ten painted fish will lose their colouration within a matter of months. Coloured Food - Young fish are fed treated foods that will temporarily tint them. Once they are no longer fed the treated food, they eventually lose their colour. Unfortunately the dye they consume can negatively affect their growth and development. Dye Injection - Needles are used to inject dye under the skin. Because only a small area is affected, the fish must be subjected to many punctures to achieve the desired effect. The popular painted glassfish are dyed this way, using florescent coloured paints. Fish that are injected often contract infections from the punctures. Dipping - As barbaric as dye injections seem, this practice is even worse. The fish are first put into a caustic solution that strips off their protective outer slime coating. They are then dipped in dye, or injected with dyes, after which they are dipped in another chemical that irritates the flesh to stimulate re-growth of the slime coat. This method is very stressful, and has a high mortality rate. Let me reiterate this, out of every 100 fish treated, 80 will die, from the remaining 20 that survive 18 will lose all the false colouration within a matter of months, just 2 out of every 100 fish treated will survive and retain the colouration for any length of time and it is likely that these remaining 2 fish with have shortened lifespans. Thankfully, this barbaric practise is illegal in this country now, but to continue to allow the import and sale of these mistreated animals will encourage the further suffering of the animals for the profits made selling to the unknowing British public. I would like to see both the import and sale of these unfortunate creatures made illegal and the Animal Welfare Bill is the perfect tool to accomplish this task. I would ask you as my elected representative to push for this to be incorporated in the bill. Yours sincerely Please make amendments / alterations as you see fit. You can find the contact details of your own MP by CLICKING HERE You could print it and post it, or cut and paste it into an email as most MP's have email. I know many members on here are also members of other forums and it would be great if we can get the support of members of all forums but as we are not allowed to name them on here, can you just check that you don't post this on another forum without checking to see if it's there already. I don't know if it will make any difference, but I do know that doing nothing will not make any difference. Arfie PS, if you think it's worthy, could a mod pin this so it doesn't fall off the bottom and maybe add it onto any other subforums you see as relevant. |
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Feb 23 2006, 11:55 AM
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![]() ~ I learn something new ~ ~~~~ every day ~~~~ Group: Newsletter Team Posts: 9039 Joined: 31-March 05 From: London, UK Member No.: 12822 |
(Obviously addressed to her and signed by me ;-) ) This post has been edited by bloozoo2: Feb 23 2006, 11:56 AM |
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Feb 23 2006, 01:05 PM
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Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1994 Joined: 23-August 05 From: London, UK Member No.: 15445 |
*cuts & pastes & emails*
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Feb 23 2006, 01:31 PM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1189 Joined: 5-January 06 From: Leeds W.Yorkshire Member No.: 18005 |
I've just emailed a copy!
Hope it works! Wish more people would join us though! |
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Feb 23 2006, 06:22 PM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 582 Joined: 2-July 05 From: Farnborough, Hants, UK Member No.: 14384 |
Well done Arfie for doing something proactive!
I will also be doing a similar letter to my local MP and also the MP of my parents constituency. There must be something else we can do to encourage other people to do the same. Have you considered contacting your local paper or maybe asking your LFS (presuming they don't stock dyed fish that is!) to stick up a poster or a copy of the PFK article? I'm off to my LFS at the weekend and will be speaking to them then. |
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Feb 23 2006, 07:26 PM
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Fish Crazy Group: Members Posts: 178 Joined: 20-February 06 Member No.: 19280 |
of course they may as well stop people being allowed to keep fish in small glass boxes at the same time!.. us fishkeepers are the worst hypocrites when it comes to fish welfare
just another wider view |
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Feb 24 2006, 01:02 AM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 709 Joined: 3-April 04 From: Toronto, Canada Member No.: 5189 |
good letter Arf! I agree that it should be pinned!
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Feb 24 2006, 01:13 AM
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Spirited Away Group: Members Posts: 1247 Joined: 5-August 05 From: Hartford, WI, USA Member No.: 15083 |
Definately should be pinned. I absolutely agree and emailed it to my fish junky friends
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Feb 24 2006, 02:13 AM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 736 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Stockport UK Member No.: 19303 |
It should be pinned and its going in the post tomorrow.
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Feb 24 2006, 10:04 AM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1016 Joined: 20-July 04 From: Home of the Crooked Spire (Derbyshire,UK) Member No.: 8116 |
Thanks guys, I was beggining think nobody on TFF gives a damn about dyed fish
One point, if you write or email your MP, you must give them your name and full address, if not, they write back to you. I wrote to mine via his own website and I didn't put my address, he (or his staff) emailed me back a few hours later for it. I also used the House of Commons email on the link I gave above and I received a copy of it this morning, so you have an idea of timescales. Arfie |
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Feb 24 2006, 10:28 AM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1189 Joined: 5-January 06 From: Leeds W.Yorkshire Member No.: 18005 |
Yeah alot of us care about it! I posted a while ago about them as I'd actually seen them in one of my LFS not long after hearing about them! I thought it was only the glass fish that got dyed until I posted the topic about them and found out that there were alot more of them than I first thought! It absolutely horrifys me that people would do such things all for profit!
I def think this should be pinned! |
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Feb 25 2006, 05:44 PM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1016 Joined: 20-July 04 From: Home of the Crooked Spire (Derbyshire,UK) Member No.: 8116 |
For those interested, I have today recieved a letter from my MP informing me:
QUOTE Thank you for contacting me with regard to the Animal Welfare Bill and the sale and importation of artificially coloured fish. I await a ministerial response to my letter on your behalf to DEFRA. I will contact you again as soon as I have more information. So, at least one MP has sent a letter, imagine what can happen if we can get dozens to do it. Arfie |
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Feb 26 2006, 01:52 AM
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![]() don't be a twit Group: Members Posts: 3844 Joined: 7-February 05 From: Berkeley, CA, USA Member No.: 11658 |
bumpty-bump-bump.
if we can get it outlawed in the Uk, then maybe we can get it outlawed in the US (<--wishful thinking) |
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Feb 26 2006, 02:08 AM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 736 Joined: 21-February 06 From: Stockport UK Member No.: 19303 |
My letter went out. I even went to my lfs and asked Len if he bought dyed fish and the look on his face he said what the hell do you think I am and im like sorry but I really had to ask.
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Feb 27 2006, 01:34 PM
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![]() Fish Addict Group: Members Posts: 582 Joined: 2-July 05 From: Farnborough, Hants, UK Member No.: 14384 |
Bumping this up cos I don't want it to fall off the radar.
Come on guys, it only takes a minute or two to copy, paste, amend and send. And a quick reply to FBF - I agree that we can be very hypocritical at times, but I don't think keeping fish properly in a tank that's big enough and meets their requirements as closely as possible, is the same as purposefully inflicting pain upon fish to make money. This post has been edited by Ami: Feb 27 2006, 01:34 PM |
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Mar 1 2006, 09:03 PM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1016 Joined: 20-July 04 From: Home of the Crooked Spire (Derbyshire,UK) Member No.: 8116 |
One last bump from me.
Obviously the mods don't care enough about dyed fish sales to pin it and it keep dropping off the page quickly so I assume nobody else can be bothered either. Arfie |
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Mar 2 2006, 08:31 AM
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![]() Leader of the Fishes Group: Members Posts: 1189 Joined: 5-January 06 From: Leeds W.Yorkshire Member No.: 18005 |
I agree we should keep this one on! Come on peeps if you care about fish then help us to get it banned it will only take a couple of mins to do it!
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Mar 2 2006, 09:33 AM
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![]() Fish Crazy Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Scotland, UK Member No.: 18461 |
Another bump!!!
I'll be writing to MP also! |
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Mar 2 2006, 12:01 PM
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![]() Fish Crazy Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: 22-January 06 From: Scotland, UK Member No.: 18461 |
I have copied and pasted into letter format and I will post the letter later on today.
Thanks for making us aware of this : |
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