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The Anti tankbusters, oddballs for tanks of 20g or under
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post Dec 4 2005, 01:53 PM
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Any chance of a pin?
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post Dec 4 2005, 02:33 PM
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Well, they come under oddball in this forum so...

South american puffers-Colomesus asellus

also known as..
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Brazilian Freshwater Puffer
South American Freshwater Puffer
Peruvian Puffer
Venezuelian Puffer

Living conditions:

Freshwater and light brackish.

Temperature 26°C
pH 7.2
Hardness 10dH
Average Size in Wild 15cm
Temperament Peaceful. (for a puffer!)

Still not community fish
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post Dec 5 2005, 02:10 AM
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CFC i think you'll be able to clarify this but i was under the impression that there were a few species of dwarf snakehead maybe small enough to be kept in a 20? anybody know em?
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post Dec 5 2005, 07:11 AM
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A single Channa gachua (green snakehead) or Channa bleheri (rainbow snakehead) could be kept in a 20g tank.
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post Dec 5 2005, 09:32 PM
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yeah i was thinking of the channa gachua i just couldnt remember the name. but those things are pretty cool
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post Nov 8 2006, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(Severum @ Dec 5 2005, 01:32 PM) [snapback]994090[/snapback]

yeah i was thinking of the channa gachua i just couldnt remember the name. but those things are pretty cool


they look realy cool, but they probably wouldnt work out in a 55 gallon cominity tank right?

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A single Channa gachua (green snakehead) or Channa bleheri (rainbow snakehead) could be kept in a 20g tank.


hey what do you think cfc? would a dwarf snake head be ok in a 55 gallon or would they get to agresive or what not, john has never even heard of them, they look cool on google shifty.gif
but there probably not comunity fish right? unsure.gif
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post Nov 9 2006, 09:01 AM
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Depends on the tankmates but dwarf snakeheads can work out in comunity tanks of at least 50 gallons.
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post Apr 4 2007, 11:50 PM
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i have no odd balls to offer lol but pictures would be great = ] for someone just browsing like i
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post Apr 8 2007, 01:11 AM
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me too.
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post Jul 9 2007, 09:02 PM
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lets not forget everyones favorite little devil. the dwarf puffer laugh.gif
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post Oct 14 2007, 01:49 AM
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Both Channa Bleheri and Channa Sp. Assam could be kept as a small group. Pretty much the smallest Snakeheads

Nandus Nandus, Asian Leaffish, Much easier to keep than the south american leaffish.

Pike characins.

Hifin Wolffish

Rainbow Wolffish

Pike top Minnows

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post Nov 14 2007, 06:40 PM
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What about Gasterosteidae (Sticklebacks)? These guys rule but I've had trouble keeping them. I've only been able to find them in bait minnows (which is biggest problem). I think their closest relative is the pipefish and sea horses. Pretty odd...and small.
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post Dec 8 2007, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE (jfrancho @ Sep 27 2005, 03:14 PM) *
Crenicichla compressiceps Dwarf Pike Cicklid. Max. Size 4". Min. Tank size: 20g (preferably 12x12x30").

All the nastiness of their larger cousins, but only attain 4". I'd only recommend a solitary adult for this configuration.


My room mate has one of those in with his red belly Parana tank. The only reason it's still alive is because it's mean as hell but I'm betting it's not going to last anther week or two. The red belly's are getting big and more aggressive. shifty.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE (nmonks @ Oct 2 2005, 12:17 AM) *
Anyway, in the Aqualog "Brackish Water Fishes" book, probably the most reliable book on the topic, the author goes to great lengths to explain that bumblebee gobies, halfbeaks, and glassfish aren't brackish water fish whatever the hobby may think. I think he over-eggs the pudding a little here... while there's no question that while these fish might not naturally occur in brackish water habitats, they do seem to do well in brackish water aquaria.

Cheers,

Neale

QUOTE (The-Wolf @ Sep 27 2005, 05:54 PM)
Can someone show me positive proof of a freshwater bumblebee goby AFAIK all brachygobius species are brackish.



Do you think that this could be a case of that they are especially sensitive to nitrate and as salt reduces the toxicity of ammonia, nitrite and nitrate it's an historical artifact from when aquarists believed in the value of old water that the adding of salt increased the success of keeping these species?
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post Feb 9 2008, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE (Matt_northants @ Jan 16 2008, 01:56 AM) *
QUOTE (nmonks @ Oct 2 2005, 12:17 AM) *
Anyway, in the Aqualog "Brackish Water Fishes" book, probably the most reliable book on the topic, the author goes to great lengths to explain that bumblebee gobies, halfbeaks, and glassfish aren't brackish water fish whatever the hobby may think. I think he over-eggs the pudding a little here... while there's no question that while these fish might not naturally occur in brackish water habitats, they do seem to do well in brackish water aquaria.

Cheers,

Neale

QUOTE (The-Wolf @ Sep 27 2005, 05:54 PM)
Can someone show me positive proof of a freshwater bumblebee goby AFAIK all brachygobius species are brackish.



Do you think that this could be a case of that they are especially sensitive to nitrate and as salt reduces the toxicity of ammonia, nitrite and nitrate it's an historical artifact from when aquarists believed in the value of old water that the adding of salt increased the success of keeping these species?



I think that's a good possibility. paired with the fact those bothering to set up a brackish tank will probably also go the extra mile to find them the right food, I think you're onto something.
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post Jun 3 2008, 10:47 AM
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this should be more organised blink.gif
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